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  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Jun 15, 2013 7:32 AM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    Cartoonguy wrote:

     

    Wow, I can't believe how confusing this is. Indeed it does say that, but I read the part above that flatly contradicts the additional info at the bottom:

     

    Time Machine works with:

    • AirPort Time Capsule's built-in hard drive (any model)
    • External USB hard drive connected to AirPort Time Capsule (any model)

    Forgive me, but you're not reading it closely -- you're seeing what you want to see, not what's there.

     

    An Airport Extreme is one thing (no built-in hard drive); a Time Capsule is another (built-in hard drive). They look the same, but the old ones have different innards.

     

    Time Machine will back up to a Time Capsule's internal HD or a USB drive connected to it.

     

    Time Machine backups to a USB drive connected to the old Airport Extremes is unreliable and not supported.

     

     

    The new Airport Extremes have new hardware and firmware, and apparently will work with Time Machine.

     

     

     

    If Time Machine backs up to a drive attached to your computer by USB, then why would it not correctly back up to a drive attached to the TC by USB?

     

    It does.  You're mixing Time Capsules and Airport Extremes.

     

     

    Indeed the Airport Extreme manual says:

    "If you connect a USB hard disk to your AirPort Extreme, you can use the Time Machine

    application to back up all your Mac computers, including your photos, music, movies,

    and documents."

    Again, that's the NEW manual for the NEW Airport Extreme.

     

    See if you can find that here:  Airport Extreme Setup Guide (early 2009 models).

     

     

    Here's another article that says you can do this:  http://osxdaily.com/2011/06/21/use-external-usb-hard-drive-with-time-capsule/

    Yes, TIME CAPSULEs.

     

    Clear now?

    24-inch early 2009 iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4), 2010 1TB Time Capsule
  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Jun 18, 2013 2:05 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    The router does support gigabit Ethernet, but not to the internal HD or attached USB drive. 

     

    That usually runs, very roughly, somewhere in the area of 20-35 GB per hour, overall (slower at first).

     

    There is a finagle to do the first backup while directly attached.  See the blue box in #Q2 of Using Time Machine with a Time Capsule.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,475 points)
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    Jun 18, 2013 2:08 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    That's about average, especially for the first time, just let it run.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,475 points)
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    Jun 18, 2013 2:15 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    Cartoonguy wrote:


    Am I right in assuming that ethernet is going to be faster than wifi,

    WiFi is glacial, don't go there.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Jun 18, 2013 2:23 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    Cartoonguy wrote:

    . . .'

    Gosh, I can't get my head around why that would be.  Data gets to the TC at gigabit speed, so then what happens between the TC ethernet port and the internal drive to slow it down? 

    I don't know enough about it, but I suspect it just isn't a priority -- Apple expects most backups to be done via WIFI, which tends to run at 10-15 GB/hour overall over a good connection for an initial backup, so there's not much point to making it fast.  And you've got a 1st gen; later versions are supposed to be faster, but I don't know how much.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Jun 19, 2013 9:45 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    The reason seems to be, since Disk Utility (and other such apps) can't see a network drive directly, Time Machine creates a sparse bundle disk image on it.  That it can mount, and open, then read and write to.  

     

    So can you.  Double-click the sparse bundle.  The "Time Machine Backups" disk image should appear on your Desktop and/or Finder sidebar after a moment or two.  Double-click that to open it, and you'll find the usual Backups.backupdb folder and contents inside.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Jun 20, 2013 5:40 AM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    Cartoonguy wrote:

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    as well as a mounted drive under Devices called Time Machine Backup.

    That's the disk image.  But since it's on a network, unlike a directly-connected drive, it won't be there at all times.  TIme Machine will connect to the network drive and mount the sparsebundle it when it needs to do a backup, but when it's done, dismount it and disconnect from the drive.  That's just how network drives work.

     

    It will also connect and mount it when you Enter Time Machine, if it's the current destination named on the TM Preferences panel.

     

    But if you want to look via the Finder when it's not already mounted, you'll have to do that manually.

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