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How can I remove print margins when manually setting them to zero doesn't work?

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I'm trying to print a web page that I've created with a custom paper size of 4.5x10.25 inches. I want the page to be printed right to the edge of the paper, with no margins at all.


I've been reading for a few days and the best thing I can find is to use Mac's Page Setup dialog to create a custom paper size and custom margins, which I've done and set to the default for all of my printers. (Hopefully I'm able to post links to images --> No matter what I do though I can't get the margins to go away. There's always always always a .75 inch margin when I print and when I print preview (Again, hoping I can post links to images --> Just to note: The same thing happens printing other websites and documents (i.e it is not a problem with my website).


Things I've tried:

  • I've read that the margins are only visible in print preview and printing the page will remove them. This didn't work.
  • I've tried tricking the system by setting my margins to 0.01 inches
  • I've tried adjusting the website to not be exactly the size of the page (I made it smaller) and the margins were still there.
  • I've set "print.print_extra_margin" to 0 in Firefox's about:config page.
  • I've tried a different printer.
  • I've tried a co-worker's machine running a newer version of OSX.
  • I've made absolutely sure that my page size it set correctly.


I'm using OSX 10.6.8 with Firefox v21.0.


The closest I can come to this is using Google Chrome, where there is a specific option for "none" in margins and the Chrome preview looks okay, but I'm not able to specify paper size unless I click "Print using system dialog" which gives me the same problems as above.


How do I remove the margins and just fit to the exact size of the page?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • kostby Level 4 Level 4 (2,290 points)

    Welcome to Apple Support Communities. We're all users here.


    Does your Print dialog offer photo 'borderless printing' settings for various paper sizes?


    Every photo printer I've ever encountered leaves some unprintable margin, unless 'borderless' and/or 'photo' media are specifically selected.


    On many of the Canon inkjet color printers I've used, borderless printing is only available when one of the photo papers is selected, even when a custom size specified that is smaller than the actual paper, trying to make it 'borderless'


    I stitch together and print panoramas of theatre sets for my local community theater, so I end up with an image about 4.5 inches by 11.5 inches to be printed.


    Selecting a photo and opening in Preview and selecting 'Fill Entire Paper' illustrates the standard unprintable borders for my specific printer.

    Screen shot 2013-06-18 at 5.24.33 PM.png

    When I open the panoramic image in Preview, I get this print preview. (The set image is of course rotated left)

    Screen shot 2013-06-18 at 5.24.13 PM.png


    By selecting Letter and Borderless in the Paper Size dialog for my Canon MG5320 printer, I get this result.

    Screen shot 2013-06-18 at 5.40.31 PM.png


    This particular Canon printer of course does NOT actually 'know' what paper is inserted, but the ink is applied assuming that a photo paper is being used, so it will saturate a standard paper.


    Hope this helps!


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  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,345 points)

    The ONLY solution I can come up with here is remove an arbitrary amount of space from my CSS element, force my users to correctly create a paper size in their OS and only use Chrome to access my website. That's a feasible list of requirements.... right?

    If you only want two or three customers, then yes.


    What is your objection to using standard recognized paper sizes and printing formats?

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,345 points)

    a 4.5x10.25 inch name-tag ??


    That's huge! Sure that shouldn't be centimetres?


    But even these days people have scissors with which to trim a piece of paper containing a smaller form!

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,345 points)

    OK, I understand the problem. You haven't mentioned what printer you are using. Have you contacted the makers with the problem?


    As Kostby mentioned, it really shouldn't be that difficult to set up.

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,485 points)

    kostby already mentioned the only way it would be feasible. The print control must have an option for borderless prints. Otherwise, the driver will always use the minimum margins as defined in the PPD.


    A paper cutter or scissors is your only option, other than replacing the printer with a model that offers borderless printing.

  • kostby Level 4 Level 4 (2,290 points)

    Dealing with legacy design issues, outside printing vendors, and convincing upper management that they are wrong and you are right are probably NOT on your to-do list today, but here's my .02:


    I'm not sure why the unprintable margins are such a huge deal if you're only printing a black and white registrant name and company on a pre-printed color tag like your example. I would think you would not need to print within 1/4 inch of the physical edges anyway. Yes, I understand that long names could be a problem. (An example that comes to mind:  M.A. Venkataramanan at Indiana University-Bloomington Kelley School of Business)


    Stretch the page length from 10.25 to 11 inches and it would make a bit more 'white space' available, so you could format the first name on one line and the last name on the second line, with company on a 3rd and even 4th line if necessary, since most every printer can handle a US-standard 11-inch paper length.


    While you're at it (redesigning), if you decrease the width of each tag to 4.25 inches, you could then print 2-wide (8.5x11) on a single sheet, and come much closer to the 'universal' printing solution you seek.


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