11 Replies Latest reply: Jun 20, 2013 7:59 AM by Pondini
James Rothschild Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

I can see all the TM Backups on my TM external HD

 

When I boot in to the Rescue parttion of 10.8.4 on my iMac and go to Restore, I select the TM HD it says ... "no backups found"

 

Whay can it not see them?

 

TM backups made on 10.8.4

New system on iMac HD has 10.8.4 on it

 

:-(


iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)
  • 1. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    James Rothschild Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    ...update...

     

    Followed the various bits of advice here on the Forums.

    Used Disk Utities, result: nothing wrong with the HD at all.

  • 2. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (27,945 points)

    Perhaps some of the information here will help:

     

    I can't see some backups

  • 3. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    Mark_Koeman Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Have you manually altered the backups at any stage? If you try to restore using Migration Assistant do you get the same error or something similar?

  • 4. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    James Rothschild Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    Thanks Thomas A Reed but I am hoping to do a fill HD restore of the whole syste, & files.

    Not sure basic Time Machine functions from an active OS will do that?

     

    Hi Mark_Koeman I have not manually alterened the backups at any time.

    Migration assistant sees nothing on the drive ... can't find the drive at all when it is attached to FW

    option-Boot into 10.8.4 rescue and can see the FW drive, but it lists no backups.

    Boot normally into a neew 10.8.4 system and FW drive is fine and all backups are visible in the FW drives Finder window.

  • 5. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    James Rothschild wrote:

    . . .

    Migration assistant sees nothing on the drive ... can't find the drive at all when it is attached to FW

    option-Boot into 10.8.4 rescue and can see the FW drive, but it lists no backups.

    Sounds like you've been bitten by a bug we've just identified.  See #D10 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting.

     

    If so, post back with details of your situation, such as,

     

    Do you have to do a full restore?

    Are any of those 3 folders on your backups?

    Do you have any other backups

    How many user accounts do you have

    Are you covered by AppleCare, etc.

     

    If you do have that bug, it will take some finagling, but your user home folders should be intact and recoverable.  The rest, we don't know about yet.

  • 6. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    Oh, and if you haven't already, please don't run the fix just yet -- I'd like you to send me a file and perhaps run a diagnostic command and either attach it to a Bug Report or call AppleCare (if you're covered), so Apple can find and fix whatever's causing this.

  • 7. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    James Rothschild Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    I have turned off Spotlight completely as per instructions I found here: ...
    https://discussions.apple.com/message/6579920?messageID=6579920&amp%3b#6579920?m essageID=6579920&amp%3b
    ... and my iMac is now perfectly normal with no Mad Fan Racing: at all.

    But now, no Spotlight running. And a screwed TM system it would seem :-(

     

    Do you have to do a full restore?

    Yes, as the HD had failed. probably as the TM, Spotlight, error of a few months bcak that many of us experienced contributed to running my HD into the ground. That HD was only 8 months old BTW :-(

     

    Are any of those 3 folders on your backups?

    ??

     

    Do you have any other backups

    Yes, CCCloner form 2 weeks ago √√

     

    How many user accounts do you have

    Two; one main Administrator, and one plain unused Standard User

     

    Are you covered by AppleCare, etc.

    I am a Mac IT support Guy of 25 years standing.

    AppleCare is worthless to me :-)

     

    Happy to send you a file and perhaps run a diagnostic command

     

    Thank you.

     

    P.S. I think Microsoft Office's mds worker screws Spotlight …

  • 8. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    James Rothschild wrote:

     

    I have turned off Spotlight completely as per instructions I found here: ...
    https://discussions.apple.com/message/6579920?messageID=6579920&amp%3b#6579920?m essageID=6579920&amp%3b
    ... and my iMac is now perfectly normal with no Mad Fan Racing: at all.

    But now, no Spotlight running. And a screwed TM system it would seem :-(x

    The two don't seem to be related. 

     

    Are any of those 3 folders on your backups?

    ??

    Sorry, I meant any of the 3 top-level folders noted in #D10 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting -- Applications, Library, and/or System.


     

    Happy to send you a file and perhaps run a diagnostic command

    Since your drive was lost, and the top-level Library folder wasn't backed-up, the evidence is gone, so it won;t help.   

     

    P.S. I think Microsoft Office's mds worker screws Spotlight …

    I wouldn't be surprised . . .

     

     

    Do you have any other backups

    Yes, CCCloner form 2 weeks ago √√

     

    EDIT:  I've been working on a different problem, and fogot the permissions problem when copying as an Admin user for this one. 

     

    I'll repost in a bit, sorry.

     

     

    Message was edited by: Pondini

  • 9. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    James Rothschild wrote:

    . . .

    Do you have any other backups

    Yes, CCCloner form 2 weeks ago √√

     

    Ok, let me try this again . . .

     

    The idea is to restore from the clone, so you get the most recent version you have of Applications,  Library, System, etc.  Then recover the up-to-date home folders from your Time Machine backups. 

     

    This will take a bit of finagling, and since you seem pretty familiar with OSX, this is just an outline.  Don't hesitate to post back with questions or concerns.

     

    1. Restore from the clone

     

    2. Log on and create a new, temporary, Admin user account.

     

    3. Delete the user accounts and home folders you just restored from the clone.

     

    4. Recreate the original Admin user account, with the identical short name and password as on the original. 

     

    5. Log on to it.  Navigate in the backups to the most recent backup (see the green box in How Time Machine works its Magic if you're not sure how they're stored).

     

    6. Copy (drag & drop via the Finder) the home folder from the backups to the /Users/Shared folder on your Mac.

     

    7. Log off that account and back on to the temporary Admin account.

     

    8. Delete the home folder for the recreated account in /Users.

     

    9. Drag the recovered one from the Shared folder to /Users.

     

    10. Restart your Mac.  Log on to the recreated account.  That should connect to the recovered home folder.  Be sure to enter the same Apple ID (or none) as on the original. Check to be sure everything is there and working properly.

     

    11. Repeat steps 4 through 10 for the other account

     

     

    Sorry for the confusion -- I'm trying to do too many things at once and thinking about some chores I need to do, too. 

  • 10. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    James Rothschild Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    I was kinda there already with that process...

     

    Yes, an amalgamation of the available backups has wordked.
    BUT if I had only had TMto reply on I would have been stuffed :-(

     

    Thanks for you support ! :-)

  • 11. Re: 10.8 Restore from TM = no backups found
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    Great!

     

    (I just thought of a way to avoid copying twice, but if you're already done . . . )