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Recieved Appleseed Invite, can't get beyond login

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  • GeekBoy.from.Illinois Level 4 Level 4 (2,730 points)
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    Jun 21, 2013 1:07 PM (in response to bobbyco57)

    If you are logged into the AppleSeed forums, then click on the "Dicussions" tab and post in those forums about your problems and how to resolve them.  Seed tests are not to be publiclly discussed, so you should use the specific discussion forums for that test to discuss it.

     

    Following the simple instructions in the emails/web pages should work for you to resolve your issues and if not, the forums for that specific seed are teh appropriate place to discuss, not in a public forum.

  • patrickfromfranconia Calculating status...

    You don't understand that, we can't get to the developer forums, as we get stuck at or after the login!

    We can't accept the license and according to that we also can't visit the developer forums.

    That's why we have to discuss it here, as some of us don't get answers from appleseed support.

  • Michael Superczynski Level 5 Level 5 (7,105 points)

    Doesn't make any difference.

    You can't discuss anything regarding Apple beta software in a public forum.

  • GeekBoy.from.Illinois Level 4 Level 4 (2,730 points)

    I do understand that you are having problems.  I have offered you what advice can be offered in the public forums. Follow the simple instructions in the email you say you received (click the big blue button in the email).  Once there follow the istructions and click on the appropriate links on the page that is opened.  It is really that simple as long as you are using the same AppleID that was invited to the seed program...

  • thanon Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Jun 22, 2013 7:29 AM (in response to bobbyco57)

    bobbyco57 wrote:

     

    Yes, I assume so as it is the link provided in the email from apple a couple weeks ago. Also, if I start over by following the steps from the beginning, when I post the authorization code and continue, the system response is -this code has already been assigned. And that didn't happen the first time I followed the procedure. Further, the main page for the program shows I'm logged in.

    Also, the user agreement page now says I have already accepted the terms .

     

    But no joy in getting anywhere .

  • patrickfromfranconia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jun 22, 2013 7:36 AM (in response to thanon)

    Same here, couldn't press on accept anywhere and now it says I already accepted it. But now it still says that my code is invalid...

    What are they doing?

  • dobes918 Level 4 Level 4 (1,415 points)

    Mine simply says I've already accepted the invitation and the rest of the page is blank now.

     

    As a lawyer, I'm not at all concerned about discussing this here, as those of us discussing it never signed a confidentiality agreement because there was no 'accept' button at the end of the versions we saw. Therefore, we have not bound ourselves to any secrecy and may discuss this issue freely. Further, because were were unable to sign the confidentiality agreement, we never got a build to try and therefore we don't know anything about mavericks TO reveal, nor can we access the pages on which those things are discussed among those who WERE able to access the agreement and then got a build to try out.

     

    Let me add (since I'm on a lawyerly roll here) that even the invitational e-mail says that we may not discuss the seed. We are not discussing the seed. We are discussing our inability to sign a confidentiality agreement that would allow us to access the seed.

     

    It may be that because we are discussing this problem here, Apple will decide not to send us a beta after all. I can live with that. What I can't live with is the idea that by discussing it we are doing anything legally or ethically wrong. We were not able to sign the agreement and therefore have not yet agreed to keep anything at all secret. Period.

  • K T Level 7 Level 7 (23,215 points)
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    Jun 22, 2013 12:40 PM (in response to dobes918)

    You've conveniently ignored not only the existing agreement(s) that lead to the conditions preceding your being qualified to receive the seed email in the first place, but also the clear admonitions contained within that mail itself:

     

    THE INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL - DO NOT FORWARD.     Pre-release software and information about pre-release software is Apple Confidential Information and is subject to the terms of your Customer Seed and Confidentiality Agreement.      Unauthorized distribution or disclosure of Apple Confidential Information is prohibited.

     

     

    If your approach now is to gain attention via protest...good luck with that.

  • dobes918 Level 4 Level 4 (1,415 points)
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    Jun 22, 2013 3:51 PM (in response to K T)

    No, I haven't ignored it, but you really should understand that no one - no one - can unilaterally impose a contract on another! The part you highlight says two things. First - that the information in the email is confidential and should not be forwarded. That is, legally, just a request.  There is no obligation on my part to honor it. There is no consideration for complying - that is, since I did not ask for the email, had not yet agreed to its terms, and had not taken anything I wanted in return for it, its terms were in no way binding on me.

     

    (Imagine the fun we could have if we could impose one-sided contracts on each other just by sending an email! I could write you: You owe me a million dollars -- and you would!)

     

    Second, it says that the software and information about it is subject to the terms of the Customer Seed and Confidentiality Agreement. That is precisely the agreement that none of us in this discussion signed - because we could not. That agreement could well have been binding as it was bilateral - we would agree to Apple's confidentiality terms, and, as consideration for that promise, Apple would send us the beta form of the new OS. We would each get something, and so a legitimate contract would be formed.

     

    I would also like to point out that 1) in this discussion we did not discuss the software or any information about it; and 2) by quoting the email, you discussed the same things we did, and if, by chance, you HAVE accepted the invitation, signed the agreement, and downloaded a build, you may now be in violation of a contract you actually have with Apple. I don't think so, since, in my opinion, you still have not discussed the seed or given information about it, but you seem to hold a different view on that point.

     

    As for getting attention with protest - not really. I rejected the invitation to preview Mountain Lion, and would now do the same with Mavericks, as I need my only computer for work. For a day or two, enthusiasm got the best of me, and I'm glad it didn't work out. I only had to keep responding here because some people seem genuinely worried about their broken invitation, and it seemed that others had stepped in to try to bully them out of talking about it.

  • thanon Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Jun 23, 2013 9:14 AM (in response to dobes918)

    Gents, this is a simple trouble shooting discussion .

     

    Appleseed invites have been emailed to numerous, random Apple customers, asking them to test the 10.9 Beta .

    Since then, there have been erratic issues preventing people from joining the program, or generally getting anywhere with the links, information and invite codes provided by Apple .

     

    Some people, like myself, are keen on being part of the 10.9 Beta testing, and are looking to find a solution to the above mentioned issues . Which are described above .

     

    This is not related to the Apple developer program, or other ways of access to Appleseed .

     

    If you have succeeded in joining this particular program, and/or found a solution, please report .

    If you believe something fishy is going on here, alert a moderator .

    If you think you can tell a stranger, on an internet message board, what to do, and you are not a moderator, think again .

  • K T Level 7 Level 7 (23,215 points)
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    Jun 23, 2013 9:17 AM (in response to thanon)

    thanon wrote:

    If you think you can tell a stranger, on an internet message board, what to do, and you are not a moderator, think again .

    Ignoring your own 'advice' is just more noise, but thanks for that, I needed my daily laugh

  • thanon Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Jun 25, 2013 3:31 PM (in response to K T)

    K T wrote:

     

    Ignoring your own 'advice' is just more noise, but thanks for that, I needed my daily laugh

    We aim to please .

    Even the less fortunate .

  • dbs Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)
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    Jul 23, 2013 11:03 AM (in response to thanon)

    Like several others, I received an invitation to test Mavericks over six (6) weeks ago. At that time I was not able to accept the CA -- wrote to seedportal and was told 'be patient, we'll contact you'.

     

    Since then, despite several emals to seedportal and seedx, I have neither received any update from Apple nor any reply to any of my inquiries.

     

    Does anyone have a working email for a real person at AppleSeed? Writing to seedportal and seedx just returns a canned acknowledgement and no on ever replies.

     

    Apple INVITED me to participate in this program -- I didn't ask for it. I accepted immediately, in good faith.

     

    If anyone here has any constructive suggestions about how to get Apple Seed to reply (or to get the software I was INVITED to try!) I'd be most grateful.

  • dobes918 Level 4 Level 4 (1,415 points)
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    Jul 23, 2013 2:37 PM (in response to dbs)

    The same has happened to me, and I think the best thing to do is to forget about it. I suspect that more people accepted the invitation than Apple expected, and they just dropped those of us who couldn't accept it initially. It's OK. It's just business. The Maverick OS will be out of beta and available to us all soon.

     

    Chances are good that once you've been invited to test a beta, you'll be invited again. I was invited to test Mountain Lion, but turned it down because I was about to move from Europe back to the US, then I was invited to Maverick, but a glitch several of us ran into prevented me from accessing it. Now, I have a beta of iWork in iCloud that I'm very happy with (no confidentiality agreement attached to it, so I think it's OK to talk about it!).

     

    I'm pretty sure that we've missed the boat on Maverick, but that's OK -- another one will be along soon enough!

  • K T Level 7 Level 7 (23,215 points)
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    Jul 23, 2013 2:40 PM (in response to dobes918)

    10.9 DP-4 is sweet - I just might move to it full time

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