11 Replies Latest reply: Jun 26, 2013 2:17 PM by 4thSpace
4thSpace Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I'd like to print a PDF on front/back of the same paper.  I can do this in preview, since it shows the manual duplex option.  But Preview scrambles some of the text.  The text prints fine from Adobe Reader but it doesn't display the duplex option.

 

Any ideas of some other program I might be able to use that will correctly print a PDF and display the duplex option?

  • 1. Re: Printing options from different apps
    Network 23 Level 6 Level 6 (11,690 points)

    Adobe Reader should be able to do it. I'm looking at Acrobat Pro and in the Print dialog you can click the Printer button at the bottom and you will get the OS X options for the printer, so if you saw duplexing for your printer in another app you should be able to find it there.

     

    If for some reason you cannot do that there may be an area called Pages to Print, and there you have options to print Odd or Even Pages. I use this to print duplex on printers that don't have the feature built in. First print the Odd pages, then feed the stack back into the printer and print the Even pages on the other side of the stack. Again, this is in Acrobat Pro but I am thinking it should be similar in Adobe Reader.

     

    Basically you should keep an open mind when looking for a print option. This is because print options in the Print dialog can be supplied by three different entities: The application, the printer driver, and the OS. They might name the feature differently and sometimes they override each other, or be hidden in sub-dialogs. If you cannot find a feature under the name you have assumed (e.g., "duplex") keep looking for it under another name.

  • 2. Re: Printing options from different apps
    4thSpace Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The even/odd suggestion is a great idea but didn't work exactly as I expected.  I printed odds first.  Then I put the paper back in to print evens.

     

    I ended up with page 4 on the back of page 1 and page 2 on the back of page 3.  I'm guessing after the first run, I have to resort these so the last odd page is first?

     

    Also, Adobe Reader doesn't show any options for printing black/white only.  Again, other apps show this.  You have some idea for that?

  • 3. Re: Printing options from different apps
    Meg74 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Are you printing more than 2 pages and in a booklet? Maybe you should look for booklet printing in

    the print setting.

     

    For Black/white printing, try look for grayscale printing from any related colour setting?

  • 4. Re: Printing options from different apps
    4thSpace Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Booklet will force two pages onto one.  Not what I want.  There is a reverse pages option that will probably fix the ordering issue.

     

    It looks like Adobe X (10.1.2) has removed the black/white option: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4225606.

     

    Is there a way to force black/white at the printer level (system wide)?

  • 5. Re: Printing options from different apps
    4thSpace Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Apparently this is a restriction with Reader.  Once you get Acrobat Pro, the feature is there.

  • 6. Re: Printing options from different apps
    Network 23 Level 6 Level 6 (11,690 points)

    I downloaded Reader (since it's free) to see how it works. I was able to select a black and white option for the Epson printer that I have. See the picture. Can you click the Printer button in Reader and get the OS X dialog with the printer driver options for your printer? The options you see might be different if you have a different brand of printer.

     

    Again, If you can access the settings for your printer driver as shown, you might also be able to get to the duplex option you see in other apps.

     

    bw-printer-driver-option.jpg

     

    I read that thread about the Reader restriction but their screen shot is from Microsoft Windows. Maybe there are more restrictions over there in Windows land.

  • 7. Re: Printing options from different apps
    4thSpace Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Unfortunately those options aren't available for Mac.  Below are the Printer Setup and Advanced options.  No black/white.  I'll have to purchase the $110+ Acrobat to get it.

     

    Page Setup.png

     

     

    Advanced Print Setup-2.png

  • 8. Re: Printing options from different apps
    Network 23 Level 6 Level 6 (11,690 points)

    The first dialog box you showed is what you get when you click the Page Setup button first from the left. The dialog boxes I showed come up when clicking the Printer (not Print) button second from the left as shown. Are you sure you don't get those?

     

    I tried this in both Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader, and I'm only on the Mac.

     

    (your second dialog box comes up when clicking the Advanced button, but that doesn't apply here)

  • 9. Re: Printing options from different apps
    4thSpace Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Interesting, I get the popup below initially.  But if I click to continue, I get the next window. 

     

    It looks like, dispite all these windows, it should also retain the Odd/Even Page setting?

     

    Don't think I need Acrobat after all.  Thanks!

     

    Adobe Reader.png

     

     

    Print.png

  • 10. Re: Printing options from different apps
    Network 23 Level 6 Level 6 (11,690 points)

    There is one more thing I forgot to add. When you click Printer like you did there (and ignore the warning), you see where it says Show Details at the bottom? Click that Show Details button. That will reveal all the additional printer driver options you see in my second level dialog box above. I think the options you seek may be in there. OS X just likes to hide those options by default.

  • 11. Re: Printing options from different apps
    4thSpace Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I did check the details section and there isn't anything else I need in there.

     

    I tried printing to see what would happen.  It worked the first time with b/w because I went through all those popups.  But it appears you have to do that every time.  So you have to do Print >> Printer >> Print (now your back on the main Print window) >> Print (again).

     

    Unless there is a way to cut all of that out, Acrobat will have a quicker workflow.