Currently Being ModeratedJun 27, 2013 12:51 PM (in response to cshapple)
You should have a look at Lightroom 5, which supports PNG files.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 28, 2013 5:56 PM (in response to necronym)
Lightroom is close, thanks for the suggestion.
I also found some tools that are supposedly geared more for design images, but they had too much stuff that isn't necessary.
I like Aperture better than Lightroom... its really too bad it doesn't show transparency, and give me a bit more control over its use of external editors. I want PNG but Aperture insists on TIFF, and of course it is hard to find your transparency images when it shows all of them as black.
Lightroom is something I'll need to think about.
Still open to suggestions for an image organizer with non-destructive editing, and lossless storage.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 29, 2013 12:14 AM (in response to cshapple)
This ia what Adobe say about Lightroom 5 and Transparency and PNG files towards the bottom of the page.
I loved Aperture, and used it from version 1, but the lack of significant upgrades sinnce version 3 was released, better RAW processing and better Noise Reduction, to name just two 'wants', forced me to look at Lightroom 4.
I got an offer from Adobe when I upgraded my Photoshop CS5 to CS6 to get lightroom for 50% off, so I thought I'd try it, see what the competition is doing.
Aperture does some things better than Lightroom 4, but Lightroom 4 did some things better than Aperture. Lightroom 5 now does everything I need and more, combined with OnOne Perfect Photo Suite 7.5 plug ins for both Aperture, Lightroom, Photoshop, Photoshop Elements or as stand alone apps, I rarely have to go into Photoshop CS6 any more.
Perfect Photo Suite 7.5 is available as an Aperture and Lightroom plug in package only, at a reduced price to the stand alone (Premium Edition with full Photoshop support).
PhaseOne have Capture One Pro 7 available, which now integrates a cataloguing feature (Phase One bought iView Media some time ago, if memory serves correctly) which has been integrated in version 7. I don't know how well that works as I haven't upgraded from version 6.
More details on Capture One 7 here:
I don't work for PhaseOne, OnOne, Adobe nor Apple, so have nothing to gain from suggesting their offerings. At present, Lightroom 5 with Perfect Photo Suite 7.5 is pretty much sorting through my workflow needs.
What I prefer about Lightroom 5 to Aperture is the RAW processing is superior to Aperture and the ability to import all the images from my external storage without the need to import the actual files into the catalogue, a virtual copy is made and so any edits are non destructive. When you output the finished image, the edits are aapplied to the full sized file, which from a D800 are huge!
Currently Being ModeratedJun 29, 2013 12:19 AM (in response to necronym)
and the ability to import all the images from my external storage without the need to import the actual files into the catalogue, a virtual copy is made and so any edits are non destructive. When you output the finished image, the edits are aapplied to the full sized file,
Aperture does precisely that. It's called a Referenced Library.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 29, 2013 12:50 AM (in response to Terence Devlin)
I am aware of this, however in my case, the Aperture Library Is Significantly bigger and requires more storage space than the Catalogue produced by Lightroom
Currently Being ModeratedJun 29, 2013 7:01 AM (in response to necronym)
Nice writeup, I snagged Lightroom again and will run the trial to give it a good workout.
Its kind of unfortunate that Aperture can't do a couple more simple things, because it would otherwise be perfect. I find it faster to work with than Lightroom.
This project is not thousands of images in most cases like with photos, its more a lot of versions of an individual image.
I get a cool picture of a WW2 aircraft, and I cut it up into headers, icons, avatars, faded out footer images, etc.
Aperture's versioning works fine for it, but it may sound nit-picky, but its lack of ability to show transparency as you browse images is a major pain. It also insists on telling the external editor what format to use.
Sometimes, Aperture creates a new stack with a new master for no particular reason, which seems to violate its own rules. It happens when I use the external editor.
Still toying with lightroom. At the moment it just "feels wrong" but I know I need to give things time.
Aperture 2 has the advantage of being paid for. Most of my website and image work right now is for volunteer projects and work with a gaming group (pen and paper mostly).