Currently Being ModeratedJun 25, 2013 3:25 AM (in response to Hiroto)
Hi Jerry. Thanks so much for your detailed help. Well, I have tried it exactly as you said and sorry to say the same thing is still happening. I have also tried disablng Helvetica Neue but it is part of the System and can't be disabled. I have also tried using a different font from Helvetica, for instance Times but when I insert a row it reverts to Helvetica Neue --- every time.
I hate Numbers!
Currently Being ModeratedJun 25, 2013 5:49 AM (in response to Leciaatapple)
10 point Helvetica Neue is the default font for your table. If you select the entire table and change it to 12 point Helvetica, that overrides the default, but it doesn't change it. If you cut the contents of a row (or a cell, or a range of cells) it will remove the font override along with the contents. If you select a block of cells and drag them to a new location, the override will move with them, but the empty cells left behind will have the default Helvetica Neue 10 point setting. Inserting a new row (for example, with Add Row Below, will copy the style of the selected row, however. I don't know why you aren't seeing that happen.
I think what you want to accomplish would be better done by selecting the table and formatting it as you want and then (with the entire table still selected), in the Styles pane, click the triangle to the right of the highlighted style and coose to define a new style based on what you have just formatted.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 25, 2013 6:21 AM (in response to Jeff Shenk)
Nope - tried that it doesn't make any difference. Have tried highlighting the whole spreadsheet and also going beyond where I think I will stop. Makes no difference. Still reverts to Helvetica Neue etc etc.
I have now created a "Numbers Template" set to my requirements. And hallalujah - it is keeping Helvetica, Regular but it is changing the font size from 12 to 10 or even 13! So I am half way there. What a struggle!
I still hate Numbers.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2013 5:49 AM (in response to Leciaatapple)
As far as I can tell, the reported behaviour is not normal. I still suspect some font problem. I'd try Safe Boot, which will clear font cache and disable fonts other than those in /System/Library/Fonts amongst other things.
Mac OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode?
When you do safe boot, some functions are not available as explained in the article but I think you can still test the current issue in Numbers. If it behaves wrongly even in safe mode, then it is not due to font problem (unless fonts in /System/Library/Fonts are damaged).
Once you have done tests in safe mode, restart the machine in normal mode.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 27, 2013 7:45 AM (in response to Hiroto)
Thanks for your latest Hiroto. I am a bit nervous about a Safe Boot as in the past I have think I have lost some things. I have looked at the link which you gave - half of which is in a language that I simply don't understand (computer speak).
In the meantime I have had an email from the iWork Team asking for more details (more details!! haven't I given enough already?) and I await their verdict - if ever.
Also in the meantime, I have sorted out half the problem as you will see form above but the font and alignment are still changing.
I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED - and will keep hacking away until it does what I tell it to do!!!
Currently Being ModeratedJun 29, 2013 12:50 AM (in response to Leciaatapple)
Thank you for your response.
Well, I have solved the problem. What I was doing and have been doing for a long long time, is highlighting and copying rows with Command C then Command X - and pasting the work in lower down, then going to the empty row and typing in new stuff - which is when it reverted to Helvetica Neue, size 10 etc.
I HAVE AT LAST WOKEN UP to "Insert Row"!! and of course, the problem does not occur!
I have been a Mac-user since 1985 (the year after it came out) but -- one lives and learns all the time!!
My apologies for wasting EVERYONE'S time!Thank you -
Currently Being ModeratedJun 29, 2013 2:44 AM (in response to Leciaatapple)
Ah. I see. I kind of thought it is something like that.
Good to know you have solved the long standing issue.