7 Replies Latest reply: Sep 2, 2013 5:30 AM by Alex Mcconnell1
Robert.Fischer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have over the years my taste in music evolved and I attempted to organize my music library using iTunes, on multiple PCs. I would remove music that no longer suited me from the library and leave only the music that I was actively interested in. Also, both my wife and I have different ITunes Libraries on our respective computers, and indoubtably have the same songs in our libraries. Now that Apple is offering the ITunes Match feature, I would like to consolidate my current ITunes library as well as music from my older PCs. I know for a fact that combining all my music from their various sources will create an extreme amount of duplicates, but will also provide me with music that I used to enjoy. I have spoken with the folks as the local Apple store and have honestly not received a response that makes me comfortable with using ITunes Match. So I will pose my questions here, and hopefully somebody can enlighten me. ;-)

  1. Will ITunes Match remove duplicate songs from my library if they are not named the same exact thing?
  2. Can I simply create a new ITunes library and import all the music from my various PCs, which will create duplicates and let ITunes Match remove the duplicates?
  3. Both my wife and I have differenrt Apple Ids that we use for our iDevices. If I were to create a single library and upload it to Itunes Match, would we both need to use the same Apple Id going forward?
  4. Many of the songs that I have are remixes, how would ITunes Match handle these?


Thank You in advance!!!!

Bobby


iPhone 5, Windows 7
  • 1. Re: consolidating multiple itunes libraries and then upload to itunes match
    Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,710 points)

    Robert.Fischer wrote:

     

    Will ITunes Match remove duplicate songs from my library if they are not named the same exact thing?

    No. iTunes Match does not modify your library or files in any way. Nothing is deleted or moved. It would be best if you cleaned up the library before you purchase iTunes Match.

     

    Robert.Fischer wrote:

     

    Can I simply create a new ITunes library and import all the music from my various PCs, which will create duplicates and let ITunes Match remove the duplicates?

    Yes to the first; no to the second.

     

    Robert.Fischer wrote:

     

    Both my wife and I have differenrt Apple Ids that we use for our iDevices. If I were to create a single library and upload it to Itunes Match, would we both need to use the same Apple Id going forward?

    Yes, you would both have to be signed into the same Apple ID. See this Apple KB article for more information: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4627?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US.

     

    Robert.Fischer wrote:

     

    Many of the songs that I have are remixes, how would ITunes Match handle these?

    If the track is not available for sale on the iTunes Store, and the track is unable to be matched it will be uploaded.

  • 2. Re: consolidating multiple itunes libraries and then upload to itunes match
    mracole Level 4 Level 4 (1,075 points)

    Your questions:

     

    1. Will ITunes Match remove duplicate songs from my library if they are not named the same exact thing? 
    2. Can I simply create a new ITunes library and import all the music from my various PCs, which will create duplicates and let ITunes Match remove the duplicates? 
    3. Both my wife and I have differenrt Apple Ids that we use for our iDevices. If I were to create a single library and upload it to Itunes Match, would we both need to use the same Apple Id going forward? 
    4. Many of the songs that I have are remixes, how would ITunes Match handle these?

     

    Summary answer:

     

    iTunes Match does not remove duplicates.  It does not use the data about a Song such as Name to discriminate.  The match process uses sampled sound, so re-mixes and new releases are recognised as discrete.  The match process is not 100% accurate, so there will be a number of mismatches.  This demands effective secure backup of Song files outside iTunes Match as the route to safeguarding your music.

     

    Perhaps the best advice would be to create a music account with an iTunes library where you import all Songs to date.  Typically use of 3rd party tools to tidy this new main library will be a very effective route to provide iTunes Match with the best start point you can.  Use of a single Apple Id to access this from the cloud will be needed.  Beware that Apple has strict rules on association of Apple Ids with devices.  Once a device or computer is associated with your Apple ID, you cannot associate that device or computer with another Apple ID for 90 days, see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4627.

  • 3. Re: consolidating multiple itunes libraries and then upload to itunes match
    Robert.Fischer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Michael - Thank you for the help. About the different Apple Ids, if my wife and I use the same id going forward, what happens to the apps that we bought for the phones under our old ids?

     

    @mracole - Do you know of any good third party tools for Windows that would make the clean up easier?

  • 4. Re: consolidating multiple itunes libraries and then upload to itunes match
    mracole Level 4 Level 4 (1,075 points)

    The are many 3rd party tools for iTunes library cleanup, for example:

     

    1.  Beatunes (http://www.beatunes.com/);

     

    2.  Tune Sweeper (http://www.wideanglesoftware.com/tunesweeper);

     

    3.  Tune Up (http://www.tuneupmedia.com); and

     

    4.  Rinse (http://www.rinsemymusic.com).

     

    Would advise careful review of each and picking the one or two that you feel most content with.  A few helpful notes are in the following forum user tip (https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4261).

  • 5. Re: consolidating multiple itunes libraries and then upload to itunes match
    Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,710 points)

    Robert.Fischer wrote:

     

    @Michael - Thank you for the help. About the different Apple Ids, if my wife and I use the same id going forward, what happens to the apps that we bought for the phones under our old ids?

    That's where things get a little difficult since you've got to be signed into a particular Apple ID to update apps. As far as I know there's no workaround for this requirement.

  • 6. Re: consolidating multiple itunes libraries and then upload to itunes match
    mracole Level 4 Level 4 (1,075 points)

    To support Michael, you will keep all your Apps bought under alternate ids.  When completing App update you will be prompted to enter the original password for Apps other than those aligned with your iTunes Match primary Apple Id.

  • 7. Re: consolidating multiple itunes libraries and then upload to itunes match
    Alex Mcconnell1 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    There are some applescriptsmout there that might do what you need.  One script site is named after the guy who hosts it (Dave, I think, cannot remember.).  He's GRO a boatload do scripts that work with iTunes.  One allows to to define the parameters for duplicate identification/removal.  Make a full backup before you start.