Currently Being ModeratedJul 5, 2013 5:28 PM (in response to Andy Benford)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 5, 2013 5:30 PM (in response to Andy Benford)
All Apple issued email addresses - .mac, .me and .icloud - are all automatically registered as AppleIDs when created. And those AppleIDs cannot be changed. Why? Don't know, other than because that's how Apple runs things.
You can continue to use your *.mac AppleID though, even if you wish to stop using that email account - the AppleID will continue to exist anyway.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 6, 2013 6:45 AM (in response to Andy Benford)
We are currently in the same situation as you. Seems we have been "Spoofed",,,, e-mails "TO" us and also sent "From" us.... Both to and from using our old <xxxxxx.mac.com> address. We are getting about 15 of the e-mails a day. All from some version of "Med Store",, "Great Medical Store",, "Erect Meds Cheap",, and other variations of same.... Each one has a different "Link" in the text, but we never launch them.
The amazing part is that for the past six weeks they all indicate that they originate from a different address. Some foreign and some from US addresses. So, we cannot write a "Rule" banning the originating address.
We did write a "rule" that send them to "Junk" and forwards each one to <firstname.lastname@example.org>.
Anyway,,,, we are ready to change our address, but are in the same "can't be done easily boat" as you.
Seems we have to start all over and establish an entirely new Apple Account. (Our old one will remain out in cyberspace forever)..... Seems strange.....
Our reluctance remains with stuff like our Calendars, Notes, iTunes, Apple Store purchases, etc......
We have posted questions here and on MacRumors, but seem to never get good answers..... Most say just "live with it" and maybe it will stop.
And like you we found out about using Alias' to late... shame on us....
Very confusing and frustrating.....Still open for any input....
Currently Being ModeratedJul 6, 2013 6:51 AM (in response to Imp68)
Thanks Imp68 for your input. I have been trying to manage the spammers but it gets very wearing. Good thought to send feedback to Apple - thanks for the link. Andy
Currently Being ModeratedJul 6, 2013 6:58 AM (in response to Michael Black)
Thanks for your input Mike. Yes, perhaps the answer for now is to start a new ID and use that for mail/iCloud and just leave my original ID for iTunes purposes and disassociate from Mail. Unsure though what would happen to the unused email address linked with the original ID because it will be disassociated from the ID and, of course, I will have told all my contacts to use a new email address, the spammers will fill it up ... does that matter I wonder? I won't be looking at that email stream anymore but the online storage will fill up - at which point, I guess, the spammers will have to go somewhere else but will Apple have a problem with full unused storage? Andy
Currently Being ModeratedJul 6, 2013 7:05 AM (in response to Andy Benford)
I'm not sure what would happen if the entire 5GB of storage filled up? At the least, I'd assume the emails would get bounced back. If you put in a secondary email address with that AppleID, you should get a notice, if it matters to you (then you could login and do a mass delete).
You can also login to your iCloud account in a web browser, and set server-side rules there, if you think that will help deal with some of the spam.
But since you cannot change that AppleID primary email, and you have purchases and such on it, you can keep if for your purchased content, and then make a new one for other things (iCloud, iMessage, and so on).
Currently Being ModeratedJul 6, 2013 7:06 AM (in response to Damathecat)
Hi Mike, thanks for your input too. You are experiencing exactly the same problem - somehow I didn't think I would be alone. Perhaps, as suggested by Michael Black, the answer is to create a new ID and use that for Mail/iCloud (making full use of email aliases before going live) and leaving the original ID just for iTunes having disassociated it from the @mac.com email address. I don't use iCloud for Photostream or backup so I guess I would be less affected by dropping the link with my original @mac.com ID than some. If I find a successful solution I'll post it. Andy
Currently Being ModeratedJul 6, 2013 11:26 AM (in response to Andy Benford)
Thanks for the reply....
Here is our strategy for the future:
1. Create a new Apple ID / Account and in doing so we will,,,
2. Establish a new e-mail address. Which will only be used for our inner circle of extended family and good friends.
3. Make two "Alias" instantly.... One for any and all "Forums" we join and the other one for all our "on-line" shopping or sites that have to have an e-mail address to service our needs.
4. Allow our very old and sentimental <***.mac.com> live in cyberspace and service only our Apple Store / iTunes account.
5. When we make switch and move we will change all our mail box pref's in the old account to delete all incomming mail as soon as possible...... Try'n to be nice to iCloud...
Then possibly way down the happy Internet road we can check the old account to see if it is healthy or still being violated... if it is not maybe start using it again.....
We hope that the above methodology will move us into this new World of "Internet-Crud-Richard-Heads". Most importantly is that our Alias' in the new account can be "Deleted/Nuked" if they become violated from some nefarious R. Head.
What a real pain to have to spend time doing all this, heck, I could be having a cool pint and playing darts......
Any comments or constructive criticism is always welcome.....
Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2013 12:40 AM (in response to Damathecat)
Mike, a good plan. The only change I would make is to steps 2 and 3. I plan to keep the new basic email address hidden by using aliases for everyone, even good friends; it was just after a friend's email account was hacked that the spam started.
A pain indeed to have to go through all of this rather than just being able to rename the existing ID ... but one hopes it will be worth the effort in the end.