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Q: Songs Disappearing from iTunes

I've seen other threads on this marked as answered, but they clearly were not based on the posts in them. At first I thought I was going crazy, or maybe had lost some music when I transferred from my old machine to my new one, but now I have songs I know I bought since moving to the new machine that have disappeared. Not just randomly missing songs, but entire missing albums too. Of course, since backing up my music consisted of simply copying the iTunes folder to an external drive (admittedly lazy way, sure) it happily overwrite the folder as I told it to and thus my backups are missing the songs too. This is complete crap, and is NOT answered as the other threads claim. Even if support allows me to re-download everything (at this point, I couldn't even tell you for sure what I am missing since I don't recall everything I've bought) what stops this from happening in the future? If my hard earned money is just going to vaporize off my hard drive at random when I am trying to play by the rules and be legal, give me one good reason not to just save that money and just start pirating everything? Because as much as I don't like pirating, I don't like buying an entire CD for one good song even less, and I like having stuff I bought simply disappear even less than that.

What is the fix for this problem? If Apple lets me redownload everything, where is the proof this won't happen again? I NEED to have a legitimate answer to this question or you and the music industry can kiss my money goodbye. Limewire will be my new music source.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on Feb 11, 2009 8:34 AM

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  • by macandmercedes,

    macandmercedes macandmercedes May 30, 2013 7:54 AM in response to turingtest2
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    May 30, 2013 7:54 AM in response to turingtest2

    Ok, how is this working out for you?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 May 30, 2013 8:15 AM in response to macandmercedes
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    May 30, 2013 8:15 AM in response to macandmercedes

    Excellently thanks, as it has done for years.

     

    tt2

  • by exfn,

    exfn exfn May 30, 2013 9:20 PM in response to gizmonic
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    May 30, 2013 9:20 PM in response to gizmonic

    I just did the itunes update and MY WHOLE FREAKIN LIBARY IS GONE.  GONE. 

    I'm furious.  says it exists somewhere, but I have no idea where.

     

    anybody have a fix?????.  and somebody tell me who's responsible for this??????? 

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA May 30, 2013 10:00 PM in response to exfn
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    May 30, 2013 10:00 PM in response to exfn

    exfn wrote:

     

    I just did the itunes update and MY WHOLE FREAKIN LIBARY IS GONE.  GONE. 

    I'm furious.  says it exists somewhere, but I have no idea where.

     

    anybody have a fix?????

    -> No content shows up in iTunes after updating

  • by figgehedberg,

    figgehedberg figgehedberg Jun 10, 2013 1:26 AM in response to gizmonic
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    Jun 10, 2013 1:26 AM in response to gizmonic

    Add me to the list of users with missing iTunes files.

     

    The thing is it seems as though some of my files are still there. If I look at my external hdd through finder the album appears completely empty even though ther is only 2 of 13 files in the album that has the exclamation mark.

     

    If I "open in finder" for one of the still linked files of the same album it opens up at the same location showing a empty folder.

     

    However....if I instead of clicking "show in finder" and just copy the link show at the bottom of the"get info" window and past the link into the finder "go to folder" the file actually appears for a brief moment in the finder showing that there is a file in the previously empty folder....***..!?

     

    I have tried changing the link to suite one of the missing files but no luck.....

     

    I guess I'll just have to try and re-rip those 273 missing odd files scatterd through my 15,000 + strong music collection.

  • by figgehedberg,

    figgehedberg figgehedberg Jun 12, 2013 5:45 AM in response to figgehedberg
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    Jun 12, 2013 5:45 AM in response to figgehedberg

    In regards to the 'hidden' files....finally figured out that the problem was the external HDD. Ran disk utility and will have to re-format, all I need to do now is to back up about 1Tb somewhere before fixing the problem.

     

    I still have the problem of several files that's gone missing from iTunes.

  • by karenfromeng,

    karenfromeng karenfromeng Jul 8, 2013 4:33 AM in response to gizmonic
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    Jul 8, 2013 4:33 AM in response to gizmonic

    Add me to the list, lots of songs have disappeared from my itunes library - can't find them again.  Can't download them again as they were cd's borrowed from friends over the years. 

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Jul 8, 2013 6:30 AM in response to karenfromeng
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    Jul 8, 2013 6:30 AM in response to karenfromeng

    "Can't download them again as they were cd's borrowed from friends over the years. "

     

    So you lost files you never actually purchased and had no legal right to put onto your computer?

  • by karenfromeng,

    karenfromeng karenfromeng Jul 8, 2013 6:35 AM in response to Chris CA
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    Jul 8, 2013 6:35 AM in response to Chris CA

    Chris CA what's wrong with putting music onto my computer, given to me by friends, for my personal use on my ipod?  Would it be any different if I paid 50p for a cd from a charity shop and put them on?

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Jul 8, 2013 7:00 AM in response to karenfromeng
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    Jul 8, 2013 7:00 AM in response to karenfromeng

    karenfromeng wrote:

     

    Chris CA what's wrong with putting music onto my computer, given to me by friends, for my personal use on my ipod?

    It's illegal.

  • by karenfromeng,

    karenfromeng karenfromeng Jul 8, 2013 7:08 AM in response to Chris CA
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    Jul 8, 2013 7:08 AM in response to Chris CA

    I didn't know it was illegal to do that.  Why does itunes have the facility to 'import' tracks from CD or other and what about cd's I have bought?

  • by QuoteNotes,

    QuoteNotes QuoteNotes Jul 8, 2013 7:16 AM in response to karenfromeng
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    Jul 8, 2013 7:16 AM in response to karenfromeng

    It is illegal to download or rip songs you haven't paid for in accordance with the licensing agreement for that music:

     

    In the December 2005 decision BMG Music et al v. Cecilia Gonzalez, a federal court ruled that the illegal downloading of songs by a consumer constituted copyright infringement and awarded damages against her of $22,500 for downloading 30 songs ($750 penalty per song). The defendant had actually downloaded 1,370 songs and, under federal law (while it is highly unlikely), the damages could have potentially been assessed at over $205 million.

     

    On June 18, 2009, the first illegal music downloading case to go to a jury trial resulted in a verdict requiring a mother of four children to pay $1.92 MILLION for illegally downloading 24 songs from the Kaaza file-sharing web site. This amounts to $80,000 per song, though she could have been hit for $150,000 per song for the over 1,300 songs she allegedly downloaded (over $195 million). Note: For a 2010 update on this story, click here. For a 2013 update on this story, click here.

     

    On July 31, 2009, a federal jury ordered a Boston University graduate student to pay $675,000 for illegally downloading and sharing music online. He admitted to downloading hundreds of songs but the suit only specified 30 songs for which he was ordered to pay $22,500 each. He could have been found liable for up to $150,000 per song for a maximum of $4.5 million. For the full story, click here.

  • by gadlaw6,

    gadlaw6 gadlaw6 Jul 8, 2013 7:50 AM in response to karenfromeng
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    Jul 8, 2013 7:50 AM in response to karenfromeng

    Hello Karen, this forum does not allow a discussion of this matter so you'll only hear the one side. You should be able to find the iTunes folder where your music should still be at on your computer. One of the problems in finding the music folder is that your computer may have hidden it by default. Elsewhere in this thread it explains how to enable you to see all the folders on your computer and how to help iTunes find your music again. At the very least you should be able to find the folder and use iTunes to reimport the folder.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Jul 8, 2013 8:55 AM in response to karenfromeng
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    Jul 8, 2013 8:55 AM in response to karenfromeng

    karenfromeng wrote:

     

    I didn't know it was illegal to do that.  Why does itunes have the facility to 'import' tracks from CD or other and what about cd's I have bought?

    Because you have bought them.

    Borrowing CDs from friends and listeneing to them is not a problem.

    Making a copy of music that you do not own is the problem.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Jul 8, 2013 8:52 AM in response to gadlaw6
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    Jul 8, 2013 8:52 AM in response to gadlaw6

    gadlaw6 wrote:

     

    One of the problems in finding the music folder is that your computer may have hidden it by default.

    The computer/OS/iTunes does not hide the music folder "by default" or any other way.

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