5 Replies Latest reply: Jul 10, 2013 3:31 PM by Meg The Dog
kowalski1980 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hello

I've started shooting super 8 weddings on a cool Bauer camera, the footage is telecined and comes back to me as a 4:3, apple pro res quicktime file. It looks amazing, but I think my final cut timeline, export and dvd studio settings are wrong. I don't want to export as 4:3, but as 16:9, but for it to remain a 4:3 box in the middle.

 

what i do so far is set the timeline options to this:

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this makes the film look like this (i curve the sides using a matte):

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then i export using these settings:

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... and then I put the quicktime onto idvd. The finished film looks alright but i think there's a better way. I do have DVD studio, but unsure what settings to use.

 

Thank you sooo much!

 

K


Final Cut Pro 7, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)
  • 1. Re: super 8mm settings on final cut studio
    Nick Holmes Level 7 Level 7 (29,835 points)

    What are the original dimensions of your 4:3 ProRes film transfers?

    Why are you exporting via QuickTime Conversion to H.264 in a non standard frame size?

     

    A DVD Video disc is always standard definition -

    720x480 for NTSC or 720x576 for PAL. Even when it is widescreen 16:9.

    A DVD Video disc uses MPEG 2 video and a Dolby Digital AC3 audio file as its basic components.

     

    You are going from ProRes to H.264 to MPEG 2 - three conversions.

     

    It is not possible to make the MPEG2 and AC3 files via QuickTime Conversion - iDVD does that. Edit in ProRes - Export as ProRes using Current Settings and Make Movie Self Contained.

     

    You will have far better results using Compressor to make your MPEG 2 and AC3 though. Bring those into DVD Studio Pro, where you also have much more control over the disc authoring process.

  • 2. Re: super 8mm settings on final cut studio
    kowalski1980 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hiya Nick,

     

    thank you so much for helping me out. I'm very new to the editing scene... I was figuring it out as i went.

     

    So the original size of the raw 4:3 is PAL 720x576.

     

    So keeping it true to these dimensions, yet changing the frame size in FCP to 1280x720, it looks like this:

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    if i wanted the image to look a little bigger on the screen, what is the best way to do this? If widescreen is what i want is this the best method of presenting it?

     

    And so after the edit, I simply export to compressor and I think the best setting is "DVD: BEST QUALITY 90 MINS" preset? which is MPEG2. Which can then be dragged into idvd ... whilst i figure out dvd studio

     

    thank you

  • 3. Re: super 8mm settings on final cut studio
    Nick Holmes Level 7 Level 7 (29,835 points)

    I would do this a little differently a DVD is always 720x576 in your case so you need to minimise the amount of resizing.

     

    Go to the menu bar: Final Cut Pro > Easy Setup.

    Choose DV-PAL Anamorphic. Click Setup. Go to the menu bar and choose Sequence > Settings. Click Load Sequence Preset. Click OK at the next window.

     

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    Back to the previous menu and change the Compressor and Field Dominace to match this...

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    When you drop your first clip into the Timeline, FCP will ask if you want to adjust the Sequence to match. Say NO.

     

    You will notice that the 4:3 fills top to bottom, with pillars at the sides. You want space though at top and bottom. Double click the clip on your Timeline to send it to the Viewer. Click the Motion tab and adjust the Scale Parameter to a size you want - probaly about 80% or so. Don't worry about the rest - get editing. You can apply that size change to all the rest of your clips at once, later. Post again if you need help on that.

     

    You only Export for Compressor to MPEG 2 if you are using DVD Studio. iDVD does all that for you automatically - just give it a 1:1 ProRes copy of the finished edit.

     

    Read the DVD Studio Pro Manual. It can be found under the Help menu bar item, or here: http://documentation.apple.com I taught myself DVD Studio in about half a day using that resource.

  • 4. Re: super 8mm settings on final cut studio
    kowalski1980 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you again Nick... that works a charm! It looks much better already. One very last question... ive noticed when exporting it to a quicktime to upload a copy onto vimeo, when using prores the file size is huuuuuge... it's around 250MB per 40secs... any tip on that.

  • 5. Re: super 8mm settings on final cut studio
    Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,680 points)

    Take the FCP exported ProRes movie into Compressor and apply the appropriate "YouTube" compression preset, and compress it. This will compress the file to H.264 with the bitrate/file size YouTube/Vimeo expects. Upload the compressed file.

     

    MtD