Currently Being ModeratedJul 7, 2013 11:17 AM (in response to cargaut)
Oh it's been a few months since I've posted here and iTunes 11 still completely blows goats in an epic fashion. I have finally been able to learn to use it with the least amount of frustration and what it requires......is.......you......click.....really.....slowly.......waiting...... long......periods........of........time.....between........each .......action.......for.......it.......to.......work.......sometimes.
Stil Total Key-Rap
I am having no problems with it for everything else other than playing music. Synching my phone works well, finding and downloading movies great but using it for it's intended purpuse as a music player horrible horrible horrible.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 10, 2013 9:20 PM (in response to cargaut)
I also hate it.
I hate that you can't look at all your albums in a list form. I have a lot of songs that are their own "album" that are just random stuff I recorded and I don't want to scroll through all those images.
I also hate that I can't go into my music anymore and drag songs or whole albums into a playlist, like I used to. I have to click on each song or album, hit "add to" and then search through ALL my playlists to add it. I used to be able to select a bunch of stuff at once and then drag it all at the same time.
The new iTunes has been making my blood pressure spike ever since it came out.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 2:12 AM (in response to SarahMer)
I can get used to some of the weird stuff but I agree about the playlists thing. The basic point of a GUI, or at least one of the main ones is the drag an drop function. Lack of it with playlists makes using playlists almost impossible in practical terms. Stupid decision
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 3:45 AM (in response to 1topgazza)
For a company with HUGE resources it's shamful that iTunes has so many problems.
Don't the developers get embarrassed?
I'm so frustrated with it at the moment I can scream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iPod Touch = rules
Interface software = $UCKS
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 7:00 AM (in response to SarahMer)
Not for the first time in this thread...
The main differences between iTunes 11 and earlier versions are the loss of coverflow and ability to have multiple windows open.
In Windows, you can restore much of the look & feel of iTunes 10.7 with these shortcuts:
- ALT to temporarily display the menu bar
- CTRL+B to show or hide the menu bar
- CTRL+S to show or hide the sidebar (So you can drag & drop to playlists)
- CTRL+/ to show or hide the status bar (won't hide for me on Win XP)
- Click the magnifying glass top right and untick Search Entire Library to restore the old search behaviour
- Use View > Hide <Media Kind> in the cloud or Edit > Preferences > Store and untick Show iTunes in the cloud purchases to hide the cloud items. The second method eliminates the cloud status column (and may let iTunes start up more quickly)
- If you don't like having different coloured background & text in the Album (Grid) view use Edit > Preferences > General and untick Use custom colours for open albums, movies, etc.
- With iTunes 11.0.3 and later you can enable artwork in the Songs view from View > Show View Options (CTRL+J) making it more like the old Album List view
- View > Show View Options (CTRL+J) also contains options to change the sorting of grid based views
If you feel the need to roll back to iTunes 10.7 first download a copy of the 32 bit installer or 64 bit installer as appropriate, uninstall iTunes and supporting software, i.e. Apple Application Support & Apple Mobile Device Support. Reboot. Restore the pre-upgrade version of your library database as per the diagram below, then install iTunes 10.7.
See iTunes Folder Watch for a tool to scan the media folder and catch up with any changes made since the backup file was created.
tt2Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4), iPad2,iPhone4,ATV,iPod classic,nano
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 8:24 AM (in response to Csound1)
I'd love to but I already lost over 2000 songs on itunes AND, nothing else works with ipods!!!
BUT, I know that it's futile to comment on this board since no one from itunes ever reads these complaints & comments.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 8:29 AM (in response to geriggs)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 8:33 AM (in response to Csound1)
yes, most of them were backed up except for the last couple hundred songs. But, many of these are from cds I created & have to have the title, artist, etc re-entered. Lots of work there.......again. Some I purchased quite a while back and itunes said I would have to re-purchase them! WHAT?!?!?! Not going to happen. All of this technology has passed me by and is way over my head. I can't find an IT person that can help me either (for under $100 an hr). I just want to use my new ipod!!!
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 8:43 AM (in response to geriggs)
You're missing the point of a valid backup. If you've done it properly then it might take a few minutes to decide what to restore and where to restore it. The rest of the process however long it takes can be unattended, so leave it overnight if needs be. It is exactly that work of editing the titles, artists etc. that you should have backed up. Still having the original CDs while mandatory for you to continue to enjoy your copies, does not consititute a backup.
You have knowlegeable people willing to help you here and on other forums for free. Explain the problem calmly, and what you've tried so far, and chances are good that someone may have a useful suggestion.
Start with Empty/corrupt library after upgrade/crash.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 11, 2013 9:18 AM (in response to cargaut)
i am an apple user since 1989, and i have never met a new version of software that made so many people angry and was so frustrating, slow, horrible to use etc. the purpose of a program is to meet the users' requirements and not frustrating them. i've been working with apple and microsoft hard- and software for many many years now. i always thought that apple's main focus was on usability, ease of use, stability and high quality. that's the reason for apple's success. they never sold bad products and left all the testing to the users like microsoft used to do. but with itunes v.11 they obviously changed their business model, no longer count on loyal apple fans, don't worry if they lose users - and probably they won't even lose many customers, because most of them are already dependent on their integrated system and can't just throw away everything and start from scratch. i still think that apple hardware is beautifully designed, but the software tends to lose it's apple-specific great usability.
i spoke to an apple support member recently, and he said: why don't you just go back to version 10. hello? would someone who is really convinced by his new product, convince the users to change to an older version? and how sustainable will this be? how long will the older version be supported anyway?
and - some of the forum members suggest even to use a third party product. but then you would lose even more key features like smooth sync with ipod/iphone etc., integrated use of the music database with all the other OSX apps, etc.
i do hope that apple thinks again and brings back those features that made itunes the best music player in the market. like cover flow, multiple windows, the genius side bar etc.)
i am sure that all of the frustrated users here who lost data or had other problems with the new version because they're all missing many key features have sent enough feedback to apple directly. but obviously apple won't bring back any of the killed features. they don't care about their customers, they only care about money.
sorry, this is REALLY not what i expect from a company like apple.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 12, 2013 5:03 AM (in response to turingtest2)
DO NOT leave computers/laptops on overnight to do backups!!!
These things can catch fire and who knows what could happen.
also back ups dont always back up 100%. things get omitted.
ive found a solution to itunes which is a great work-around for me. dont use it. so i dont. not had any problems with it since.
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