Currently Being ModeratedJul 9, 2013 12:06 PM (in response to Texas Mac Man)
But yes, it has had OS X installed. Before I put it on the shelf, I used it to play my iTunes library in my home stereo system (the old-fashioned way, using actual WIRES -- can you believe it, boys and girls? People actually used WIRES to send their music to the speakers!).
Currently Being ModeratedJul 9, 2013 1:10 PM (in response to James Weinrich1)
Look at A flashing question mark appears when you start your Mac
Troubleshooting portables that won't turn on or start up
Does your Tiger install disc look like this?
Currently Being ModeratedJul 10, 2013 10:27 AM (in response to Texas Mac Man)
Yes, that is exactly what my Tiger install disk looks like. I hope that's a good sign!
I'm real busy today but as soon as possible I will look at the two links you give. I am also awaiting delivery of a fresh PRAM battery, which should arrive any day now. I'm willing to troubleshoot plugged into the wall outet, and with the old battery removed, but obviously I don't want to spend hours and hours on a procedure that might not work, but that would work with a good battery in its proper place.
Thanks for your help!
Currently Being ModeratedJul 12, 2013 1:35 PM (in response to James Weinrich1)
My new PRAM battery just arrived today. I'll install it tonight and try to install the System software from the original disks. If it doesn't work, I'll explain on Saturday. Thanks for your help!
Currently Being ModeratedJul 13, 2013 4:36 AM (in response to Texas Mac Man)
The "flashing question mark" article appears to have been removed. Clicking the link takes me to a generic Apple support page.
The "Troubleshooting" article doesn't help, because I erased my Pismo's hard drive, and it no longer has system software on it. My main goal is to install the software on that drive.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 13, 2013 4:45 AM (in response to James Weinrich1)
My new PRAM battery has been installed. I reset PRAM by doing a command-option-P-R.
The problem remains, but it's getting more consistent, which I guess is progress. With the Pismo connected to AC power (all my batteries are, of course, dead by now), the following has happened:
- When I start up with the Tiger installation disk, everything goes smoothly, the gray Apple logo appears, and then, suddenly, a flurry of white text on an irregular black background floods the screen. Darwin says there's a kernel panic and they're in a loop ("we are hanging here").
- When I start up with the original Software Restore disk, the blank gray screen blinks, turns a different shade of gray, the cursor arrow shows up in the upper left-hand corner, and it hangs. The cursor arrow doesn't respond to the trackpad; it's frozen.
- When I start with the original Software Install disk, the same sequence takes place, but there is no cursor arrow that shows up. It just has the gray screen, a blink with a slightly different shade of gray, then it hangs.
The behavior is exactly the same for all 3 disks (respectively) when I use the MacBook Pro to start up:
- Insert Pismo or Tiger disk into MacBook Pro (counterintuitively).
- Start up the Pro in Target mode. Connect to Pismo using Firewire cable.
- Start up Pismo. Pismo takes awhile to notice the Firewire disk, but eventually does.
- Then it tries to use the disk in the Pro, but ends up acting case-by-case as it did when each disk was in the Pismo's drive (kernel panic hanging, gray screen with arrow, gray screen without arrow).
My last chance will be to take a hard drive from a defunct ice iBook (dual USB) and use it to replace the factory-supplied Pismo drive. That iBook was a G4; the Pismo is a G3 (I believe). If there has developed a deep, difficult problem with the Pismo's hard drive, hopefully this will solve it:
- I will try to boot from the iBook-drive-in-the-Pismo. I doubt this will work. If it does, great! If not...
- I will try to boot from the Tiger installation disk, and if that works, try to install the Tiger software on it.
- If that doesn't work, I will try to boot from the Software Restore and the Software Install disks.
- If that doesn't work, I give up!!!! Unless someone here has a better idea.
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