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Jun 4, 2013 9:13 PM in response to Gamermjsby John Galt,Apple Support Communities contributor etresoft wrote a very useful app to quickly gather certain system information that may help point to a cause of this problem. Go to his website, download and run EtreCheck:
http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck
Etrecheck will be in your Downloads folder. Open it from there. You may see the following dialog box:
Click Open - etresoft contributes to this forum frequently and can be considered a trustworthy developer.
It will take a moment to run as it collects its data.
Copy and paste its output in a reply.
Do not be concerned about anything that says "Problem" or "failed".
EtreCheck was designed to remove any personal information (such as your computer's name and serial numbers) but if you see anything that looks like an email address or any other personal information that should not be divulged to others, please delete or obscure that information when you post the reply.
When you are finished with EtreCheck, quit the program. It occupies very little space, and you can keep it or drag it to the Trash as you wish.
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Jun 4, 2013 9:32 PM in response to John Galtby Gamermjs,Hardware Information:
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro9,2
1 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 2 cores
8 GB RAM
Video Information:
Intel HD Graphics 4000 - VRAM: 512 MB
Startup Items:
360ControlDaemon - Path: /Library/StartupItems/360ControlDaemon
ChmodBPF - Path: /Library/StartupItems/ChmodBPF
VirtualBox - Path: /Library/StartupItems/VirtualBox
System Software:
OS X 10.8.3 (12D78) - Uptime: 0 days 0:8
Disk Information:
TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF disk0 : (750.16 GB)
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 549.3 GB (66.7 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
BOOTCAMP (disk0s4) /Volumes/BOOTCAMP: 200 GB (34.88 GB free)
OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5970H
USB Information:
Logitech USB Optical Mouse
CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard
Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
FireWire Information:
Thunderbolt Information:
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Kernel Extensions:
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch Version: 3876
com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower Version: 1.6.6
org.pqrs.driver.KeyRemap4MacBook Version: 8.0.0
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxDrv Version: 4.2.8
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB Version: 4.2.8
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetFlt Version: 4.2.8
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetAdp Version: 4.2.8
Problem System Launch Daemons:
Problem System Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.paragon.NTFS.auth.plist
Launch Daemons:
[loaded] at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
[loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
[not loaded] com.bjango.istatmenusdaemon.plist
[loaded] com.bombich.ccc.plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist
[loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist
[loaded] org.pqrs.KeyRemap4MacBook.load.plist
Launch Agents:
[loaded] at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist
[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
[loaded] com.bjango.istatmenusagent.plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
[loaded] com.razer.rzupdater.plist
[loaded] com.razerzone.rzdeviceengine.plist
[loaded] com.seagate.SeagateStorageGauge.plist
[loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist
[loaded] org.pqrs.KeyRemap4MacBook.server.plist
User Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.adobe.ARM.202f4087f2bbde52e3ac2df389f53a4f123223c9cc56a8fd83a6f7ae.plist
[failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-xxx@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist
[loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist
[loaded] com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist
[not loaded] org.virtualbox.vboxwebsrv.plist
User Login Items:
iTunesHelper
SpeechSynthesisServer
CrossOver CD Helper
GeekTool Helper
iSnap
CrossOver CD Helper
3rd Party Preference Panes:
Flash Player
Java
MacFUSE
Paragon NTFS for Mac ® OS X
XBox 360 Controllers
Internet Plug-ins:
AdobePDFViewer.plugin
AdobePDFViewerNPAPI.plugin
Flash Player.plugin
FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin
googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin
JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin
o1dbrowserplugin.plugin
OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin.plugin
OnLiveGameClientDetector.plugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
Silverlight.plugin
User Internet Plug-ins:
Bad Fonts:
None
Top Processes by CPU:
11% mds
4% mdworker
2% WindowServer
1% EtreCheck
0% SystemUIServer
0% Battery
0% ocspd
0% fontd
0% ps
Top Processes by Memory:
74 MB mds
57 MB Dock
41 MB WindowServer
41 MB coreservicesd
33 MB Finder
33 MB Google
25 MB CalendarAgent
25 MB loginwindow
25 MB SystemUIServer
Virtual Memory Statistics
5.44 GB Free RAM
1.11 GB Active RAM
136 MB Inactive RAM
1.32 GB Wired RAM
345 MB Page-ins
0 B Page-outs
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Jun 4, 2013 10:06 PM in response to Gamermjsby John Galt,Back up your hard disk, not necessarily that there is any reason to suspect it is failing, but the slowdowns you describe can presage an impending disk failure and you should have backups anyway.
There are way too many third party system modifications, Internet plugins, and User startup items in your report to implicate any particular one, but a heavily modified system such as yours will be difficult to maintain. It is also possible for one third party modification to interfere with another, so that either one may work on its own but the combination of both can cause problems.
To isolate the problem consider these suggestions:
- Creating a temporary account to isolate user-specific problems: Isolating an issue by using another user account
Log out of your usual account and log in to the temporary one. If the problems subside they are caused by one or more of your Login Items. Disable them in System Preferences > Users and Groups > select your account > Login Items.
Delete the temporary account when you are finished with it.
- Safe Mode or "Safe Boot" is a troubleshooting mode that bypasses all third party system extensions and loads only required system components. Read about it: Starting up in Safe Mode
Safe Mode is for troubleshooting only. Startup will take a long time and some programs (iTunes for example) will not work in Safe Mode. Restarting your Mac normally will restore its previous state. If the Mac works in Safe Mode without the frequent "wait cursor" and freezing, then your problems are due to one or more of the system modifications you installed. They will affect all users so the behaviour will be affect the temporary user account as well.
For a general purpose troubleshooting read Isolating issues in Mac OS X and OS X Mountain Lion: If your Mac runs slowly. The article is very cursory, but be sure to read through to the end. Unfortunately the link to Disk Utility at the end points to nothing useful, so use this one: Disk Utility. Use Disk Utility to repair your startup disk, and report any errors it finds.
More links you may find helpful:
- Memory limitations: Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory and determine how much RAM is being used
You have plenty of RAM but poorly written apps or system modifications can use all of it, resulting in slowdowns. Read the above to determine if excessive amounts of virtual memory are required.
- Identifying resource hogs and other tips: Runaway applications can shorten battery runtime, affect performance, and increase heat and fan activity. Use Activity Monitor to correlate the slowdowns to one or more active processes.
- To identify potential hardware problems: Apple Hardware Test
Lastly: though it will not fix your problems, update to OS X 10.8.4. Check the App Store. It was released today.
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Jun 5, 2013 12:22 PM in response to John Galtby Linc Davis,The next time you have the problem, note the exact time: hour, minute, second.
If you have more than one user account, these instructions must be carried out as an administrator.
Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the icon grid.
Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left. If you don't see that menu, select
View â–¹ Show Log List
from the menu bar.
Scroll back in the log to the time you noted above. Select any messages timestamped from then until the end of the episode. Copy them to the Clipboard (command-C). Paste into a reply to this message (command-V).
When posting a log extract, be selective. In most cases, a few dozen lines are more than enough.
Please do not indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.
Important: Some private information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting.
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Jul 27, 2013 3:06 AM in response to Gamermjsby MyEyEMac,Hi,
I have been using and occasionally fixing Apple OS's since OS 7.0 and I do get bit irritated with all the replies from all the "know alls" on this topic. AND I have searched Hi and Lo for a reasonable answer.
I have NEVER had such a frustrating experience with a Apple OS until OSX 10.8.4, randomly giving me processes (not responding).
There is NO consistency and happens with all apps Apple and others and has nothing to do with mode. It is an OS bug and leaves me wondering why.
Any solutions out there? Please.
Alternately where can I get a beta version of "Mavericks" that I can install?
Thanks
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Jul 27, 2013 3:47 AM in response to MyEyEMacby Gamermjs,Hey MyEyEMac,
After much frustration and many hours searching for solutions online I took my mac down to an Apple authorised service provider and they fixed it for free. Turns out that it was a dodgy hdd cable that was causing the problems.
Thank you all for your help and time
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Jul 27, 2013 4:53 AM in response to Gamermjsby MyEyEMac,Hi Gamermjs,
Sorry but I don't buy it.
If you Google "Mountain Lion, not responding". You will see that there is every concieveable problem with this "freeze" being posted with as many "solutions".
To brush it off by saying it was a cable (your solution) or using a different mode or doing a hardware test is not good enough. I have Activity monitor open on my desktop permanently and can see exactly which apps (from Finder to Skype to Firefox to Safari to Pages to etc etc) that goes on a "beachball freeze" for anything from a few seconds to - well let me go and make a coffee while the ball goes round and round - and then its gone with NO way of getting a diagnosis of what is happening deep down. It is also not a malware as I also have virus checking apps and Little Snitch running to try and find out what it is.
Frustrating
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Jul 27, 2013 5:45 AM in response to MyEyEMacby John Galt,MyEyEMac wrote:
I have been using and occasionally fixing Apple OS's since OS 7.0 ...
Then you should know enough to ask a new question so that your specific circumstance can be addressed.
It is also not a malware as I also have virus checking apps
Your virus checking apps may very well be malware, but there may be additional reasons for your frustrations that no one is in position to address without more information regarding your system. Please post a new question with the results of EtreCheck as instructed to the OP above, or Linc Davis's instructions, or at least some information with which to start.
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Jul 27, 2013 7:23 AM in response to John Galtby MyEyEMac,OK No problem. I will d/l EtreCheck and then post the results as requested.
I hate to be negative but I don't think anyone will find anything.
BTW since the last post Pages beachballed twice and Safari once each one for approx 20-30 secs
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Aug 21, 2013 4:10 AM in response to John Galtby MyEyEMac,Hey Guys,
Just a heads-up on what I did. The short story
After much clearing caches and zapping Pram etc etc. I re-installed back to ML 10.8.1.
Problem Solved!
Running like a dream, back to where I was.
It was not a hardware or a malware etc problem.
Apologies to Apple but it was an update problem ... do not update above 10.8.1 ...wait for Mavericks.
EtreCheck won't help any now.
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Aug 21, 2013 7:33 AM in response to MyEyEMacby John Galt,MyEyEMac wrote:
... Problem Solved!
Problem deferred.
Downgrading OS X is not the way to address third party system modifications that break with system updates. Since you won't divulge what that is we'll never know the reason, but the problematic code remains on your Mac.
FIx the problem, not the symptom. That's what the OP did.
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Sep 2, 2013 10:54 AM in response to John Galtby cobbs87,I'm having freezing problems myself. Wondering if anyone can deduce anything from my log...
Hardware Information:
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011)
MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,2
1 2 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4 cores
4 GB RAM
Video Information:
Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB
AMD Radeon HD 6490M - VRAM: 256 MB
Startup Items:
VirtualBox - Path: /Library/StartupItems/VirtualBox
System Software:
OS X 10.8.4 (12E55) - Uptime: 0 days 0:23:9
Disk Information:
TOSHIBA MK5065GSXF disk0 : (500.11 GB)
S.M.A.R.T. Status: Failing
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 499.25 GB (89.68 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
MATSHITADVD-R UJ-8A8
USB Information:
Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
FireWire Information:
Thunderbolt Information:
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Kernel Extensions:
com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt (0.0.68)
com.parallels.kext.prl_usb_connect (7.0
com.parallels.kext.prl_hypervisor (7.0
com.parallels.kext.prl_hid_hook (7.0
com.parallels.kext.prl_netbridge (7.0
com.parallels.kext.prl_vnic (7.0
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxDrv (4.1.6)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB (4.1.6)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetFlt (4.1.6)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetAdp (4.1.6)
Problem System Launch Daemons:
Problem System Launch Agents:
Launch Daemons:
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
[loaded] com.disc-soft.DAEMONTools.PrivilegedHelper.plist
[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
[loaded] com.parallels.desktop.launchdaemon.plist
[loaded] com.prosofteng.DriveGenius.locum.plist
[loaded] com.rim.BBDaemon.plist
Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.parallels.desktop.launch.plist
[loaded] com.parallels.DesktopControlAgent.plist
[loaded] com.parallels.vm.prl_pcproxy.plist
[loaded] com.rim.BBAlbumArtCacher.plist
[loaded] com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist
User Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.adobe.ARM.202f4087f2bbde52e3ac2df389f53a4f123223c9cc56a8fd83a6f7ae.plist
[failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-[redacted]@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
[failed] com.mlbam.nexdef.core.NexdefLoader.plist
[failed] com.prosofteng.DGMonitor.plist
[not loaded] org.virtualbox.vboxwebsrv.plist
User Login Items:
Flux
iTunesHelper
Caffeine
Dropbox
BlackBerry Device Manager
3rd Party Preference Panes:
Flash Player
Perian
Internet Plug-ins:
AdobePDFViewer.plugin
AdobePDFViewerNPAPI.plugin
Flash Player.plugin
FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin
GameFacePlugin.plugin
GarminGpsControl.plugin
iPhotoPhotocast.plugin
JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
Silverlight.plugin
Unity Web Player.plugin
User Internet Plug-ins:
Bad Fonts:
None
Top Processes by CPU:
15% WindowServer
11% Google Chrome
3% hidd
1% EtreCheck
0% fontd
0% BBLaunchAgent
0% prl_disp_service
0% Flux
0% Dock
0% mds
Top Processes by Memory:
160 MB Google Chrome
108 MB Google Chrome Helper
86 MB AdobeReader
78 MB Dropbox
66 MB WindowServer
61 MB mds
57 MB Dock
53 MB Finder
29 MB coreservicesd
25 MB RimAlbumArtDaemon
Virtual Memory Statistics
1.16 GB Free RAM
1.65 GB Active RAM
153 MB Inactive RAM
1.04 GB Wired RAM
690 MB Page-ins
0 B Page-outs
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Sep 2, 2013 11:21 AM in response to cobbs87by John Galt,cobbs87 wrote:
Disk Information:
TOSHIBA MK5065GSXF disk0 : (500.11 GB)
S.M.A.R.T. Status: Failing
You have an impending hard disk drive failure. Consider yourself fortunate in that you now have an opportunity to back up your important information if you have not done so already.
Replacing the hard disk itself is not unreasonably expensive, and is easily accomplished yourself if you are so inclined. Having a verified and operational backup turns a potential disaster into a non-event.
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Sep 2, 2013 12:32 PM in response to John Galtby cobbs87,Wow thank you. Good to know. Luckily I believe I still have Apple Car. Aside from being a nuisance this should be a non-issue. I am a bit alarmed to see this is my second hard drive in a 2 year span.
