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Q: Keep getting problems using transitions with backgrounds

Sometimes its fine, but many times I get the error:

There is not enough extra media beyond clip edges to create the transition.

Do you want to overlap (ripple trim) your media to create the transition?

 

This will decrease the total duration of your project.

 

I can hit Cancel or 'Create Transition' button and then nothing happens - no transition (cross dissolve) is added.

If I step back til  before I add the background the transition is added to footage just fine.

User error or some known bug?

Posted on Apr 9, 2012 3:43 PM

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  • by jas664,

    jas664 jas664 Apr 6, 2013 3:39 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Apr 6, 2013 3:39 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Hey Tom,

     

    Thanks for the quick response. I'm relatively new to this, so I apologize if I'm using the wrong terms. I've tried what you said - selected the beginning edit point of the second clip and hit cmd-T to add a cross dissolve. The result was the same. I brought both clips to the primary storyline so that the magnetic timeline thing does its magic and they're against each other. To be safe, I trimmed each clip so that there's 5 seconds of extra media for the transition. Screenshot attached.

     

    Screen shot 2013-04-06 at 3.36.24 PM.png

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Apr 6, 2013 4:00 PM in response to jas664
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    Apr 6, 2013 4:00 PM in response to jas664

    You have the right side of the edit point selected? When you click on it, is it yellow? When you click on the left side, is that also yellow? Maybe double click the edit point and post a screen shot of the precision editor that will open up.

  • by jas664,

    jas664 jas664 Apr 6, 2013 4:12 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Apr 6, 2013 4:12 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Yeah, the edit points are yellow and below are screenshots with the precision editor open so you can see what the ends look like (for some reason I needed to do it twice to show each end of the clip).

     

    Screen shot 2013-04-06 at 4.02.57 PM.pngScreen shot 2013-04-06 at 4.02.47 PM.png

     

    The same actions (cmd-T, dragging a transition, etc) all result in the same prompt telling me that I don't have enough media. The weirdest part of this is that when I get the prompt that asks "Do you want to overlap (ripple trim) your media to create the transition?" and I select "Create Transition," nothing happens. It's as if the prompt never appeared in the first place. This feels like a bug in Final Cut...

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Apr 6, 2013 5:18 PM in response to jas664
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    Apr 6, 2013 5:18 PM in response to jas664

    There's something wrong. You should not be getting this error message.

  • by jas664,

    jas664 jas664 Apr 6, 2013 5:27 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Apr 6, 2013 5:27 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Alright, thanks for the help! I'll try Apple support.

  • by videoalex,

    videoalex videoalex Apr 7, 2013 9:41 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Apr 7, 2013 9:41 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    This was exactly the problem I was having. I never got resolution. Hopefully this new poster does and will share!

    (or they will find a bug and squash it.)

  • by petterssonphotography,

    petterssonphotography petterssonphotography Apr 8, 2013 7:36 AM in response to mbpm
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    Apr 8, 2013 7:36 AM in response to mbpm

    I'm having the exact same problem. Just updated to 10.0.8 this morning.  Anything else, black holes, lights and objects can be added from the transitions tab but not cross dissolve or fade to color. Argh...

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Apr 8, 2013 7:41 AM in response to petterssonphotography
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    Apr 8, 2013 7:41 AM in response to petterssonphotography

    You realize this thread is exsctly a year old, and the problem of the original poster was solved, even if it wasn't marked solved, and the OP was clearly using a different version of the application.

  • by petterssonphotography,

    petterssonphotography petterssonphotography Apr 8, 2013 8:05 AM in response to jas664
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    Apr 8, 2013 8:05 AM in response to jas664

    I found a workaround for the problem:First you need to add some light effect from the transitions tab, by dragging as you would normally do, and after that you will be able to replace the light effect with a normal x dissolve:P

  • by videoalex,

    videoalex videoalex Apr 8, 2013 8:09 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Apr 8, 2013 8:09 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Just becasue this thread is a year old does not mean all of us who keep having the same problem don't keep having it. Would you rather 11 different threads? Is that what apple would need to repair the bug?

  • by videoalex,

    videoalex videoalex Apr 8, 2013 8:17 AM in response to petterssonphotography
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    Apr 8, 2013 8:17 AM in response to petterssonphotography

    That works! if you use the "light bloom" effect, it will apply as expected.

    This is a bug. We need to get apple to repair it.

     

    To: http://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html everyone!

     

    perhaps copy and past the address of thread? Since jas664 documented it so well for us already.

     

    and, see Tom? old threads ARE useful things.

     

    now we all have the solution - and so will everyone who googles for that error message just like I did.

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Apr 8, 2013 8:26 AM in response to videoalex
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    Apr 8, 2013 8:26 AM in response to videoalex

    This is how threads get to be 30 pages long going back a couple of years and nobody can find anything on it because ever transition problem, for instance, ends up in one thread. But whatever.

  • by bonfire,

    bonfire bonfire Jul 1, 2013 12:08 AM in response to videoalex
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    Jul 1, 2013 12:08 AM in response to videoalex

    I too get the "there is not enough extra media beyond clip edges to create the transition" message no matter what I try, even though I know there is enough...

     

    The bloom trick works for me, which in my mind confirms this is a bug.  But its a PITA because its a duplicate step you have to perform for every transition... Definitely a bug... But I wonder what is causing this, obviously everyone doesn't have this problem or there would be a million people raising ****.  I wonder what the common denominator is for us with this problem???

     

    For reference, my config is:

     

    FCPX 10.0.8

    MacPro early 2009

    OS X 10.8.4

    and I'm editing clips from a GoPro3 exported from Cineform...

  • by dj108,Helpful

    dj108 dj108 Aug 7, 2013 9:35 AM in response to videoalex
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    Aug 7, 2013 9:35 AM in response to videoalex

    hello! i'm from Russia so sorry for my bad english!

    but!!

    I seem to have found a solution to this problem.

    1. go to PREFERENCES - EDITING

    2. there is - Transitions:... make shure that DURATION is 1,00 seconds or more!!!!))))))

    if it less than 1 sec - an error will occur

    thats it)))

     

    try this... may be it will help you

     

    ))))

  • by wondering77,

    wondering77 wondering77 Aug 21, 2013 12:11 PM in response to dj108
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    Aug 21, 2013 12:11 PM in response to dj108

    From Russia with Love! Thanks!

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