13 Replies Latest reply: Oct 7, 2013 9:15 AM by fordnats
fordnats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hi folks, just taken delivery of my first Mac, which appears to be an A1117 2.3 ghz dual late 05, complete with spider and bird-poo, sadly lacking any HD and therefore OS. Its been resting up in some fellas shed while the iMac has been making hay with it's owner in the front room, now it's time for me to pick up the pieces of its broken heart. And where to start (tough when your mac and other machines is virtually zero)?? First-off it's all on a tight budget (hence the initial purchase). I have had a go with the hoover, I have added some extra sticks, everything is kinda hanging on picking up the right OS at the right price. I am also contemplating stripping her down and repasting the CPU. I hear mx-2 is good for this, or is mx-4 better-still?. Anyone echo any of these ideas, and anyone have any more before I plug her in?

 

Thanks in advance..


PowerMac
  • 1. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,495 points)

    Hope you didn't actually pay money for it. You could always sell it eBay for spares for, say, $10.

  • 2. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    fordnats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for restoring mu faith in the community-based forum ethic. Is this how you've amassed your thirty-eight thousand points Klaus? I'll send you the ten dollars to keep your opinions to yourself next time. Cheers.

  • 3. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,495 points)

    Sorry if my reply offended you. If you have further questions please identify what Mac you are talking about and what problem it is that you expect to have resolved by remote control.

  • 4. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    Swampus Level 2 Level 2 (180 points)

    Had to go with the Hoover?  You didn't vacuum the board with a brush attachment, did you?  That would introduce a lot of static.

     

    I don't like the sound of it being in the elements for so long.  Does it power on?  Do you get to a folder with a question mark?  If so, I guess it makes sense to proceed.

     

    MX-2 is fine if you already have some on hand.  MX-4 is probably a little better.  Well worth doing on these older machines.

     

    If possible, I'd purchase a new hard drive rather than take a chance with a used one.  Either purchase on-line from someone who actually knows how to mail hard drives correctly (like OWC) or purchase from a local store.

     

    As far as MacOS, the final version of Leopard (10.5.8) is the last version that will run on that machine.  Any retail Leopard install disk will work and can then be updated to 10.5.8 directly from Apple's servers.  Leopard is expensive.  Keep an eye on eBay and Craig's List.  Maybe even call Apple.  It appears that some get lucky doing that.

     

    You may also wish to try Debian:  http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/

     

    Edit:  Where do you live, anyway?  If your friend's shed is in the Arizona desert, maybe not so bad?  If your friend's shed is in the Louisiana swamps, I'd hang it up.  How does it look on the inside?  Any signs of corrosion?

  • 5. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    Is this the machine? The a1117 seems an atypical way of refering to a machine.

    http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_dual_2.3.htm l

     

    Restore Tiger 10.4 & Leopard 10.5  DVDs are available from Apple by calling 800-767-2775 as of January 20, 2013. Have your serial number ready. Have your credit card ready too.  There is a small fee.

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4720126?tstart=0

  • 6. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    fordnats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes I used the brush attachment,  I guess I will have to de-stat it now.. I have still not chanced powering it up yet, a friend told me to leave any pcb architecture that has been exposed to the elements to 'warm up' and dry out for as long as possible to reduce the chance of condensation on any boards creating arcing shorts across the system. to be honest, it appears to be dry and in really good shape (to the untrained eye), so I might well have a crack at firing it up later, still I wonder about checking out the paste before I even go there?

  • 7. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    fordnats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    That appears to the the animal, that's the one I zeroed on too..

  • 8. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    Swampus Level 2 Level 2 (180 points)

    You can't really "de-stat" or undo damage that might have been caused.  I wish you luck here.

     

    I would see if it powers up before messing with the thermal compound.  How long have you had it in your house?  If it is room temperature and the inside is dry, then it is probably safe to test.  If you're unsure, I'd wait a little longer.

  • 9. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    fordnats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The machine has gone from damp to damper, climate-wise. I bought it from a guy in Sarf London, its now here in Northern Ireland. Funny to note this one was actually assembled in Ireland, so the base-plate informs me. On the plus-side, no signs of corrosion..

  • 10. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    I'm no expert, but I'd put a big household fan on it to quicken drying.

     

    Query by serial number

    Apple's warrenty database will identify the type of Mac you have.  Your serial number is securely sent.

    https://selfsolve.apple.com/agreementWarrantyDynamic.do

     

    This site provides more information, but lacks security.

    "A serial number is a unique, identifying number or group of numbers and letters assigned to an individual piece of hardware or software. It's used for various things depending on the product / brand but what is your Mac's serial number for and more importantly... what is it hiding and what can it do for you ?"

    http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php

     

    or

    This site provides more information, but lacks security too.

    "A serial number is a unique, identifying number or group of numbers and letters assigned to an individual piece of hardware or software. It's used for various things depending on the product / brand but what is your Mac's serial number for and more importantly... what is it hiding and what can it do for you ?"

    http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php

    http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html

       ( hint by K Shaffer  )

  • 11. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    fordnats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi folks, at long last got my Mac running! Coupla issues though, I have picked up a 256 mb 7800 GTX that needs flashed, will I chance getting it done in town or is there anyone out there who'd be more trustable to flash it? Also if the machine gets chance to go into sleep mode it does not recover, once recovery is attempted the fans race until you kill the power. I browsed some of the discussions here, and dl'd the temperature monitor and all seems to be in order temperature-wise, highest temp recorded at the moment is just 51 degrees for the memory controller diode. Any suggestion much appreciated!  J 

  • 12. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    Great!

     

    Did you say what release of mac os you were using?

     

    I ran into troubles with Tiger & sleep.  I do not put the machine to sleep: just power down hd & display.

     

    apple icon > about this mac

  • 13. Re: Barnyard relic needs tlc!
    fordnats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've two HDs on board, one carries tiger, the other leopard. The mac's fine all the time I keep it busy, but if I get sidetracked for a while (easy enough with 4 kids!) I come back and its time to literally pull the plug and leave for a quarter of an hour.... If I ditch Tiger do you think that might solve it? I dont actually know which OS the machine's prioritising TBH!  Cheers rc..