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Q: Raw Update 4.08 removes distortion correction for Sony RX100 files?

I loaded raw update 4.08 on my 27 inch iMac yesterday. A while later, I opened Aperture 3 to export some RX100 files from a family event last week to Smugmug. To my horror, as the photos loaded when I viewed them, the automatically applied lens distortion correction was removed and obviously it was worst with the wide ones. The issue also shows up in iPhoto, so it seems a general OS thing. To confirm it was indeed due to the raw update, I exported the same raw files to my MacBook Air, which I hadn't updated yet. Sure enough, Aperture loaded them with distortion correction just fine. Obviously, I won't be updating the MacBook until this issue is fixed.

Aperture 3, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Aug 24, 2013 10:36 AM

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Q: Raw Update 4.08 removes distortion correction for Sony RX100 files?

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  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Aug 24, 2013 12:37 PM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 24, 2013 12:37 PM in response to TBannor

    TBannor wrote:

     

    I loaded raw update 4.08 on my 27 inch iMac yesterday. A while later, I opened Aperture 3 to export some RX100 files from a family event last week to Smugmug. To my horror, as the photos loaded when I viewed them, the automatically applied lens distortion correction was removed and obviously it was worst with the wide ones. The issue also shows up in iPhoto, so it seems a general OS thing. To confirm it was indeed due to the raw update, I exported the same raw files to my MacBook Air, which I hadn't updated yet. Sure enough, Aperture loaded them with distortion correction just fine. Obviously, I won't be updating the MacBook until this issue is fixed.

    This may be disappointing, but it is expected.  Note that Aperture has removed nothing, however.  What you are seeing is caused by using a RAW Original instead of a JPG Original.

     

    The Apple RAW Compatibility Update is part of the OS.  The RAW converter in OS X is system wide.  Any program can use it.  Aperture uses it.

     

    Aperture does not, afaik, do _any_ lens correction.  Lens correction must be handled by a plug-in or external editor (or done outside of Aperture).

     

    The files you had imported and viewed prior to the most recent RAW Compatibility Update were JPGs.  They were converted in-camera.  The camera contains the software to correct for lens distortion when it converts the sensor data to a JPG file.  Now that you can view the converted RAW files, you can see that this distortion correction is not applied.  That makes sense:  Aperture is doing the conversion, not your Sony camera.

     

    So there is no issue to be fixed.  If you want to use Sony's lens corrections, you have to either use the JPGs created by the camera, or convert the RAW using Sony's RAW converter (Image Data Converter v. 4).  Other software may also apply lens distortioin correction (I don't know).  Aperture does not.

     

    This is a much-asked-for feature request.  If you would like to see it added to Aperture, tell Apple.  The only line they listen to is "ApertureâžžProvide Aperture Feedback".  It certainly wouldn't hurt to add your voice.

     

    HTH.

     

    --Kirby.

  • by TBannor,

    TBannor TBannor Aug 24, 2013 12:46 PM in response to Kirby Krieger
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    Aug 24, 2013 12:46 PM in response to Kirby Krieger

    Read my whole post. Aperture absolutely does apply distortion correction to Sony RX100 files, or at least it did until Raw 4.08. Transferring the raw files to a Mac not updated to 4.08 results in distortion correction being applied to the raw files automatically, no plugin needed. I'm not an amateur and have used Aperture from day one. I know what I'm talking about.

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Aug 24, 2013 1:08 PM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 24, 2013 1:08 PM in response to TBannor

    My bad -- sorry  .  I mistakenly assumed you were referring to RX100 II files.

  • by TBannor,

    TBannor TBannor Aug 24, 2013 1:11 PM in response to Kirby Krieger
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    Aug 24, 2013 1:11 PM in response to Kirby Krieger

    No worries. I'm about to do a blog post with a sample image processed on both Macs. The difference is obvious. I also reported the bug through Aperture Feedback.

  • by TBannor,

    TBannor TBannor Aug 24, 2013 1:56 PM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 24, 2013 1:56 PM in response to TBannor

    Blog post here: http://bannorbannor.com/index.php/blog/entry/apple-where-did-my-rx100-distortion -correction-go

     

    Same image processed from raw in Aperture on iMac with Raw 4.08 and on MacBook Air without 4.08 here: http://smu.gs/17crFQq

  • by sixthhour6,

    sixthhour6 sixthhour6 Aug 24, 2013 2:01 PM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 24, 2013 2:01 PM in response to TBannor

    Hi I had the same problem after updating today. It's really disappointing that this slipped by. This post hasn't been approved by moderators yet but here is the link from a discussion I started on dpreview http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52042972. For other readers, you can see a before and after photo of the issue.

     

    Here is what I wrote and how I fixed the issue. Hope this helps!

     

    I've noticed an issue with my Aperture photos after updating to Camera RAW 4.08. Photos taken with the RX100 are no longer corrected for lens distortion. This correction happens in most RAW convertors and is normally transparent to the user but after applying the update all of my pictures began to become uncorrected. I can only confirm this issue is with RX100 since I have already downgraded.

    It took me a while to figure out how to downgrade because there is no official way to do it. I tried several approaches but ended up with this fix. You have to go to /system/Library/CoreServices and replace the two RawCamera.bundle and RawCameraSupport.bundle with older raw files from another computer (or backup). Do this at your own risk!

    Also, if you happen to like the extra real-estate an uncorrected image provides, go ahead with the update!

  • by TBannor,

    TBannor TBannor Aug 24, 2013 2:03 PM in response to sixthhour6
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    Aug 24, 2013 2:03 PM in response to sixthhour6

    Thanks for confirming this! I don't think I'll attempt the downgrade. I just won't upgrade the MacBook and will just put RX100 files there for the time being.

  • by sixthhour6,

    sixthhour6 sixthhour6 Aug 24, 2013 3:06 PM in response to sixthhour6
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    Aug 24, 2013 3:06 PM in response to sixthhour6

    Here's an example of the issue.

    Screen Shot 2013-08-24 at 6.04.56 PM.png

  • by Sansat,

    Sansat Sansat Aug 25, 2013 7:12 AM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 25, 2013 7:12 AM in response to TBannor

    I have exactly the same problem with my RX100 RAW images after downloading the RAW updates from last week, the one that includes the details for the RX100II.

  • by BjornSE,

    BjornSE BjornSE Aug 25, 2013 7:22 AM in response to Sansat
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    Aug 25, 2013 7:22 AM in response to Sansat

    Same problem here, it has some very severe barrel distorion which almost looks like a fisheye lens. Let's hope that apple fixes this soon!

  • by alexis117,

    alexis117 alexis117 Aug 27, 2013 9:55 AM in response to BjornSE
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    Aug 27, 2013 9:55 AM in response to BjornSE

    Same problem here too.

  • by tobyfromgarland,

    tobyfromgarland tobyfromgarland Aug 28, 2013 9:15 PM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 28, 2013 9:15 PM in response to TBannor

    I can also confirm the same behavior after installing the 4.0.8 update.

  • by laina618,

    laina618 laina618 Aug 28, 2013 9:47 PM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 28, 2013 9:47 PM in response to TBannor

    Having also the same problem after the new update. Sent an report to Apple and hope they fix it soon

  • by ramses2320,

    ramses2320 ramses2320 Aug 29, 2013 6:40 AM in response to TBannor
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    Aug 29, 2013 6:40 AM in response to TBannor

    Me too. Imported a bunch of photos into iPhoto on the weekend, they were fine (e.g. the raw filter properly corrected the barrel distortion).

     

    Did some touchups on the same photos in Aperture last night, and as I accessed each one it undid the barrel distortion correction that had previously been applied.

     

    Glad to see I'm not alone, and it's clearly related to introducing support for RX100 II. Hope they fix it soon!

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