14 Replies Latest reply: Sep 9, 2013 12:49 PM by AJsApple
AJsApple Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

I was just given a PowerMac G5, 1.6GHz; the first one that came out if I'm correct.  I was told it wouldn't start up correctly, which is why the previous owner was going to toss it.  So, I took it to troubleshoot.  All I found wrong with it was a bad RAM module.  After replacing the pair, it starts perfectly. 

 

My question is about keyboard compatability.  The only keyboard I own is what came with my 2010 Mac Pro-- the flat, soft touch keyboard.  I presume the PowerMac came with the previous style that had the full-sized white keys with the raised, clear plastic rib around the edge?  Nevertheless, when I connect the newer keyboard I have to it, the OS runs the keyboard identification application.  After the first inquiry to press the key adjacent to the left shift key, it gets stuck. 

 

Is it possible that a Mac, of any model, wouldn't recognize a newer keyboard, espicially an Apple branded one?

  • 1. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)

    Yes it is possible.  Wireless are less certain than wired.     Also the wireless recognition system may be turned on by default, which means you have to bypass it by making sure you have a compatible keyboard in the first place.    Good keyboards to try are those by Logitech and MacAlly made for the Mac that are wired USB.  Microsoft USB keyboards are typically quite good too, though the command (Apple Logo or Cloverleaf icon) and option key placement is reversed and the Windows and Alt keys are used in their place.  Microsoft did make a patch that switched them so Mac users could get used to their orientation on other Macs.

  • 2. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    AJsApple Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I think you misunderstood me.  I didn't mention a wireless keyboard.  This is the USB keyboard with the numeric keypad.  I could care less about the compatibility of a wireless keyboard.

     

    My question is specific to the Apple keyboard, not other brands.  If I'm going to have to purchase a keyboard, I'll buy an older used Apple keyboard.

  • 3. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)

    Here's what is going on.  You may have a chicken and egg problem here, unless you can find an older keyboard.

  • 4. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BeenThere. . . Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am having a problem with using the Numeric Keys on my new Apple wired keyboard.   The keyboard has been properly "identified", but we need to use the Numeric Keys to enter figures.  I did go into Universal Access to see if there was something I could do regarding the on/off mouse key setting and set it to off

     

    This "seemed to work" -- for the rest of the day.  However after shutting down for the day, the situation reversed itself and the Numeric Keys again did not work.  Tried this several times, but the settings never became saved and kept reverting. 

     

    I've tried 2 new Logitech Keyboards (Wireless Wave Combo) -- as well -- this new Apple wired keyboard is my 3rd keyboad.  It seems that a few years ago Logitech "stopped" making Mac compatible keyboards.  I think this is true as I looked for the MAC Compatible logo on the boxes at Staples, Best Buy, etc. and no longer found them.  They are only PC compatible or, USB functional.

     

    Now that I need a decent Mac compatible keyboard, the search has been frustrating.

     

    Much appreciate any help you can offer.

  • 5. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)
  • 6. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    AJsApple Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    My keyboard did the same thing.  However, for me, after hitting one of the function keys, the numeric keys worked. 

     

    So far, I've had luck using the keyboard.  The only issue seems to be that every time I start up, the keyboard identification application comes up automatically, and gets stuck.  Obviously, the Power Mac has Leopard; the last  operating system that supported Power PCs.  So, maybe it's a compatibility/firmware thing with these new keyboards? 

  • 7. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BeenThere. . . Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    a Brody,

     

    H-E-L-P -- Here's the lates of my efforts.  Am nearly at witt's end .

     

    The "only" things which allows the Numeric Keypad keys to be used is in Universal Access -

    (by turning the Mouse Keys "OFF")  HOWEVER, when computer is turned off nightly, the

    settings revert and must be changed again daily -- ugh-h. 

     

    BY THE WAY, my "Stickies" application will ALSO not retain any changes.  ??? Could this

    be a software issue???

     

    1.  I made sure I am the chief admin of my computer

    2.  Am using OSX 10.6.8 (all software is up-to-date)

    3.  Am using a "new" corded Apple keyboard

    4.  Checked all Fn keys

    5.  Checked Spaces & Expose setup info

    6.  Checked all Mouse and new Keyboard setup info

    7.  Have verified and repaired Disk Permissions (from within Disk Utility App)

    9.  Rebooted after all checks above

    10. Went into Universal Access -- again (turned Mouse Keys "OFF" again

    11. No changes -- either on the numeric key usage OR the Stickies app notes

    12. Need help . . .

     

    Many thanks.

  • 8. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BeenThere. . . Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    a Brody,

     

    I am realizing that no changes are being retained that I make to:

     

    Universal Access

    Stickies Notes

    Expose

     

    Your thoughts?  And again, my thanks . . .

  • 9. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    Might ry this...

     

    Safe Boot , (holding Shift key down at bootup), use Disk Utility from there to Repair Permissions, test if things work OK in Safe Mode.

     

    Then move these files to the Desktop for now...

     

    /Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist

     

    /Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.systempreferences.plist

     

    /Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.desktop.plist

     

    /Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.recentitems.plist

     

    Reboot & test.

     

    PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.

  • 10. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BeenThere. . . Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi,

     

    I follow you up to "Reboot & test".

     

    What is the "gray radian" and what do you mean by "let it go"?  For how long? 

    Will it finally indicate the Hard Drive has been repaired? 

     

    Then" if I do a restart does this take me out of the Safe Boot back to normal usage

    What do I do with the files temporarily moved to the Desktop after returning to ? normal usage ? 

     

    Lastly could any software actually be corrupted and causing these problems rather than the Hard Drive

    needing repair?

     

    Many thanks.

  • 11. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    Well, generally let it go a few minutes, if it doesn't finish in say 5, then it's serious HW problems.

     

    Yes, reboot will put you back in normal boot... 99.9999% of the time.

     

    SW is possible, but it's usually flaky RAM that causes Disk Corruption.

  • 12. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BeenThere. . . Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Another situation -- on another IMac (3 years old):   OSX  10.6.8  

     

    What's causing a translucent black screen to slowly drop down with a dialog box indicating that I need to "restart" my computer.  You can see the entire desktop through this translucent screen.  It covers the whole screen and has this dialog box in the center to shut down.  This has happened twice this week.  So, I shut it down and restart.  What causes this?

     

    Model Name:          iMac

    Model Identifier:          iMac11,3

    Processor Name:          Intel Core i3

    Processor Speed:          3.2 GHz

    Number Of Processors:          1

    Total Number Of Cores:          2

    L2 Cache (per core):          256 KB

    L3 Cache:          4 MB

    Memory:          16 GB

     

    Than you again.

  • 13. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    You should really start a new question, we're sort of trampling on the Original Poster's question noe & yours is quite a different problem.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/community/desktop_computers/power_mac

     

    Well, actually, since it's an iMac, here would be better...

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/community/desktop_computers/imac_intel

  • 14. Re: Keyboard Compatability
    AJsApple Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Yes, off topic.  Thanks.