10 Replies Latest reply: Sep 14, 2013 11:46 PM by doroszi
doroszi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Time Machine wont boot although it still is backing up and works in the preferences. How can I fix this? Any ideas?

  • 1. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,670 points)

    How are you trying to boot from it, and what happens?

  • 2. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    doroszi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    First I tried clicking on Time Machine in the dock. That's when I noticed it didn't even bounce. Next I looked it up in the application's folder. Again after double clicking on it, no response. Booted from an install disk, went to Disk utilities and verified and repaired permissions and again to no avail. Found the plist file and pulled that but that didn't help either.

  • 3. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,670 points)

    Please try each of the steps below that you haven't already taken.

     

    Step 1

     

    From the menu bar, select

     

     ▹ System Preferences ▹ Time Machine

      

    and make sure that at least one backup destination is selected and available.

     

    Step 2

      

    If you're entering Time Machine from the Finder, make sure no Finder windows are open in other Desktop spaces in Mission Control. You must enter from a window open in the current space.

      

    Step 3

       

    If you're backing up to an external hard drive attached to your Mac, open the backup volume in the Finder. You should see a folder with the name "Backups.backupdb". If you instead see a file with a name ending in "sparsebundle," the backup was created over a network. You have to mount the backup volume manually when you want to restore from it by double-clicking the sparsebundle file.

      

    Step 4

      

    Select the "Backups.backupdb" folder and open the Info dialog. Either "staff" or "everyone" should have Read onlyaccess. If not, click the lock icon to unlock the access settings and make the necessary change. If you're not sure how to do that, consult the built-in help or ask.

     

    Step 5

      

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it, then copy the text to the Clipboard (command-C):

    ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist

    In the Finder, select

    Go Go to Folder...

      

    from the menu bar, paste into the box that opens (command-V) and press return.

     

    A folder will open with a file selected. Move the selected file to the Desktop, leaving the folder open for now.

     

    Relaunch the Finder by selecting  Force Quit from the menu bar, then selecting Finder and pressing return. Your Finder settings will be lost.

     

    Try again to enter Time Machine. If you still can't, put back the file you moved to the Desktop, replacing the newer one that will have been created in its place.

     

    Otherwise, close the folder you opened and delete the file you moved to the Desktop. Recreate your Finder preferences.

     

    Step 6

     

    Do as in Step 5, but with this line:  

    /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine.plist

     

    This time you may be prompted for your administrator password. Reboot, recreate your settings in the Time Machine preference pane, and run a backup to test.

     

    Step 7

     

    Launch Disk Utility and select the icon of the backup drive in the pane on the left (not any of the volume icons below it.) At the bottom of the window, you should see this:

     

    Partition Map Scheme : GUID Partition Table

     

    If the partition scheme is anything else, the drive has to be repartitioned (with the loss of all data.)

     

    Step 8

     

    Skip this step if you're backing up to a network device, such as a Time Capsule.

     

    Boot in safe mode. Try again to enter Time Machine.

     

    Note: If FileVault is enabled on some models, or if a firmware password is set, or if the boot volume is a software RAID, you can’t boot in safe mode.

     

    Step 9

     

    Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:

     

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

     

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

     

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the icon grid.

     

    Click the Clear Display icon in the toolbar. Try again to enter Time Machine. Select any messages that appear in the Console window. Copy them to the Clipboard (command-C). Paste into a reply to this message (command-V).

  • 4. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    doroszi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have a DROBO disk array as my backup to drive. I complained to Drobo that Time Machine was taking up the whole drive and not re-writing over old data. They instructed me to create a sparsebundle file to limit Time Machine use of the array. So I did. And right up to just recently it has worked fine. In fact it seems to still be working fine.

     

    Now, on the other hand; Following the above directions; Using the "Go to folder" menu to find:

    ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist

    It tells me "The folder can not be found!"

     

    Also, using the same technique, looking for:

    /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine.plist

    It tells me the same thing "The folder can not be found!"

    So I manually looked for these files. I did find the Time Machine plist file. I did NOT find the finder plist file. Even after "Relaunching the finder" I am still unable to find the Finder plist file.

     

    In view of these events it would now seem that the Finder may be the culprit here and not Time Machine.

    What are your thought on this?

  • 5. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,670 points)

    If you're viewing this page in a third-party web browser, please load it in Safari and try again. Otherwise, open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key and selecting

    Go Library

    from the Finder menu bar. Navigate in the usual way to the folder indicated above.

  • 6. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    doroszi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    First I should mention that when I set up my backup system it was in Snow Leopard. Now I'm using Mountain Lion. That said, even though my backup device is connected to my Mac with a USB cable and not on a network it seems how the Drobo company had me create a sparce bundle file to prevent Time Machine from filling it up and not overwriting as it should have may be a the root of this my problem.

     

    Number 3 of your above instructions mentions this issue. If I click and hold the TM icon in the Dock and choose "Browse other Time Machines Disks" it shows me the "TimeMachineDisk." Selecting it brings me right into Time Machine.

     

    I tried the Console app and got a blank window. But, when I clicked on " Show Time Machine Preferences.." I got this in the Console window:

     

    9/14/13 9:54:16.243 PM A-Dock[339]: CFURLGetFSRef was passed this URL which has no scheme (the URL may not work with other CFURL routines): /Applications/

    9/14/13 9:54:16.243 PM A-Dock[339]: CFURLGetFSRef was passed this URL which has no scheme (the URL may not work with other CFURL routines): /Users/daves

    9/14/13 9:54:16.456 PM System Preferences[18738]: Preference bundle "/Users/daves/Library/PreferencePanes/iClipboard.prefPane" is missing identifier

    9/14/13 9:54:16.482 PM SIMBL Agent[287]: Unable to create dictionary from bundle at path '/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/LastPass.bundle/Contents/Info.plist'

    9/14/13 9:54:16.484 PM SIMBL Agent[287]: Unable to load bundle at path '/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/LastPass.bundle'

    9/14/13 9:54:16.497 PM System Preferences[18738]: Preference bundle "/Users/daves/Library/PreferencePanes/Speech.prefPane" is misplaced, ignoring...

    9/14/13 9:54:17.475 PM System Preferences[18738]: Cannot setMachineString without first being authenticated

    9/14/13 9:54:17.518 PM System Preferences[18738]: *** WARNING: -[NSImage compositeToPoint:operation:fraction:] is deprecated in MacOSX 10.8 and later. Please use -[NSImage drawAtPoint:fromRect:operation:fraction:] instead.

    9/14/13 9:54:17.520 PM System Preferences[18738]: *** WARNING: -[NSImage compositeToPoint:fromRect:operation:fraction:] is deprecated in MacOSX 10.8 and later. Please use -[NSImage drawAtPoint:fromRect:operation:fraction:] instead.

    9/14/13 9:54:17.528 PM System Preferences[18738]: *** WARNING: -[NSImage compositeToPoint:operation:] is deprecated in MacOSX 10.8 and later. Please use -[NSImage drawAtPoint:fromRect:operation:fraction:] instead.

    9/14/13 9:54:17.530 PM System Preferences[18738]: *** WARNING: -[NSImage compositeToPoint:fromRect:operation:] is deprecated in MacOSX 10.8 and later. Please use -[NSImage drawAtPoint:fromRect:operation:fraction:] instead.

    9/14/13 9:54:17.754 PM System Preferences[18738]: Error loading /Library/ScriptingAdditions/24U Appearance OSAX.osax/Contents/MacOS/24U Appearance OSAX:  dlopen(/Library/ScriptingAdditions/24U Appearance OSAX.osax/Contents/MacOS/24U Appearance OSAX, 262): no suitable image found.  Did find:

              /Library/ScriptingAdditions/24U Appearance OSAX.osax/Contents/MacOS/24U Appearance OSAX: mach-o, but wrong architecture

    9/14/13 9:54:17.760 PM System Preferences[18738]: Performance: Please update this scripting addition to supply a value for ThreadSafe for each event handler: "/Library/ScriptingAdditions/SIMBL.osax"

    9/14/13 9:54:17.763 PM System Preferences[18738]: Performance: Please update this scripting addition to supply a value for ThreadSafe for each event handler: "/Users/daves/Library/ScriptingAdditions/SpiceShaker.osax"

    9/14/13 9:54:17.764 PM System Preferences[18738]: Performance: Please update this scripting addition to supply a value for ThreadSafe for each event handler: "/Users/daves/Library/ScriptingAdditions/textsoapSA.osax"

    9/14/13 9:54:17.768 PM System Preferences[18738]: Unable to create dictionary from bundle at path '/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/LastPass.bundle/Contents/Info.plist'

    9/14/13 9:54:17.769 PM System Preferences[18738]: Unable to load bundle at path '/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/LastPass.bundle'

    9/14/13 9:54:17.898 PM PopClip[315]: [INFO] NMMenuItemFinder: (copy) counted 100

    9/14/13 9:54:17.963 PM PopClip[315]: [INFO] NMMenuItemFinder: (paste) counted 100

    9/14/13 9:54:18.211 PM System Preferences[18738]: Error loading /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin/Contents/MacOS/DVCPROHDAudio:  dlopen(/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin/Contents/MacOS/DVCPROHD Audio, 262): no suitable image found.  Did find:

              /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin/Contents/MacOS/DVCPROHDAudio: mach-o, but wrong architecture

    9/14/13 9:54:18.211 PM System Preferences[18738]: Cannot find function pointer NewPlugIn for factory C5A4CE5B-0BB8-11D8-9D75-0003939615B6 in CFBundle/CFPlugIn 0x7f93e3679bc0 </Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin> (bundle, not loaded)

    9/14/13 9:54:18.252 PM System Preferences[18738]: Error loading /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/JackRouter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/JackRouter:  dlopen(/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/JackRouter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/JackRouter, 262): no suitable image found.  Did find:

              /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/JackRouter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/JackRouter: mach-o, but wrong architecture

    9/14/13 9:54:18.252 PM System Preferences[18738]: Cannot find function pointer New_JackRouterPlugIn for factory 7CB18864-927D-48B5-904C-CCFBCFBC7ADD in CFBundle/CFPlugIn 0x7f93e3684e50 </Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/JackRouter.plugin> (bundle, not loaded)

    9/14/13 9:54:18.281 PM PopClip[315]: [INFO] NMMenuItemFinder: (cut) counted 100

    9/14/13 9:54:31.285 PM SmartDaemon[316]: Unknown SMART temperature format: 37 00 00 00 11 00

     

    This all may be a moot at this point.

     

    PS, I did try all steps in the above instructions and, again, found #3 to be most pertinent.

  • 7. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,670 points)

    I don't completely understand your reply, but try the following. Back up all data before making any changes.

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it, then copy the text to the Clipboard (command-C):

    /Library

    In the Finder, select

    Go Go to Folder...

    from the menu bar, paste into the box that opens (command-V), and press return. A folder will open. From that folder, delete the items listed below (some may be absent.) You may be prompted for your administrator login password.

    • Application Support/SIMBL
    • InputManagers/SIMBL
    • LaunchAgents/net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist
    • ScriptingAdditions/SIMBL.osax
    Log out and log back in.

    Make sure you never reinstall SIMBL. It’s likely to come bundled with another third-party system modfication that depends on it. If you want trouble-free computing, avoid software that makes miraculous changes to other software, especially built-in applications. The only real exception to that rule is Safari extensions, which are mostly safe, and are easy to get rid of when they don’t work. SIMBL and its dependents are not Safari extensions.

  • 8. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    doroszi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    What you didn't understand in my last post was my veiled attempt at surrending.

     

    Unfortunately eliminating all the SIMBL files didn't help.

     

    Is it possible TM sees the sparcebundle as being on a network even though it isn't?

  • 9. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,670 points)

    I think you have a sparsebundle on the backup volume instead of a folder. In that case, you have to mount the sparsebundle before you enter Time Machine, as I wrote in my first message.

  • 10. Re: Time Machine wont boot!
    doroszi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You think? Let me quote myself:

     

    "First I should mention that when I set up my backup system it was in Snow Leopard. Now I'm using Mountain Lion. That said, even though my backup device is connected to my Mac with a USB cable and not on a network it seems how the Drobo company had me create a sparce bundle file to prevent Time Machine from filling it up and not overwriting as it should have may be at the root of my problem."

     

    In other words, I agree.