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flavour2804 Calculating status...
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Jun 21, 2012 10:51 AM

I have just discovered the 'Modified' folder in my iPhoto Library (i.e. those photos I have rotated, cropped, enchanced, etc.), and it is using up about 10GB of hard drive space, which I desperately need to free up.


I have searched a few forums and it appears there are some programs that will identify the duplicate photos and mark them next to the original.


However, in pretty much everything I have read, people only mention deleting the Modified/duplicate photos, and keeping the Originals.  I don't want to keep the originals, otherwise I wouldn't have modified them in the first place!!!  Is there any way around this or am I stuck with the originals and the modified versions for good?


Also, is it true that in Aperture, it only mantains one file, which would resolve this issue?



  • Keith Barkley Level 5 Level 5 (5,140 points)
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to flavour2804)

    What if you want to go back to the original to make a change? iPhoto takes the original, applies your changes and creates the smaller modified image for display.


    Do not delete any images from the iPhoto Library, you will confuse iPhoto and corrupt your database. You need to look for savings elsewhere.


    Aperture and iPhoto work pretty much the same. Both keep the original untouched and apply any edits to the modified or preview image. Aperture can be set to *not* generate previews, but that slows things down a lot.

  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (113,300 points)
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    Jun 21, 2012 11:46 AM (in response to flavour2804)

    To remove all of the modified photos in your library select all of the photo in the library and use the Photos ➙ Revert to Original menu option. 



    That will do what you want.



  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (54,900 points)
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    Jun 21, 2012 3:56 PM (in response to flavour2804)

    In Aperature you can choose not to have previews (what are called modified in iPhoto) but then you have issues accessing yoru photos from other programs


    You can not make any changes to the structure of content of the iPhoto library and there is no easy way to do what you want - you can export a photo as a JPEG, delete it in iuPhoto, empty the iPhoto trash and the system trash and import the photo back to iPhoto


    The betrter solution is to get a larger hard drive or to run iPhoto on an external drive


    Moving the iPhoto library is safe and simple - quit iPhoto and drag the iPhoto library intact as a single entity to the external drive - depress the option key and launch iPhoto using the "select library" option to point to the new location on the external drive - fully test it and then trash the old library on the internal drive (test one more time prior to emptying the trash)



    And be sure that the External drive is formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) (iPhoto does not work with drives with other formats) and that it is always available prior to launching iPhoto



    And backup soon and often - having your iPhoto library on an external drive is not a backup and if you are using Time Machine you need to check and be sure that TM is backing up your external drive












  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (121,745 points)
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    Jun 22, 2012 3:59 AM (in response to flavour2804)

    iPhoto should give you an option to overwrite the original - surely that wouldn't be that hard for them to develop?

    But that's an entirely different application. iPhoto is a Digital Asset Manager, you're looking for a photo editor. There are lots about. But that's not what iPhoto (or similar apps like Picasa, Lightroom, Aperture) is.


    If that's what you want the best thing is to use an app that's designed for that purpose, not the express opposite.






  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (113,300 points)
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    Jun 22, 2012 9:45 AM (in response to flavour2804)

    One question - how do I make sure Time Machine is backing up the EHD as well?


    After one backup go into the TM folder and look for your EHD there.


    This shows my iMac and three EHDs.


    If all you want to keep is your Modified files then you don't want to use iPhoto.  Use one that does not protect the orginal file as a digital negative.  Perhaps a file browser of some type will do what you want.

  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (54,900 points)
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    Jun 22, 2012 10:41 AM (in response to flavour2804)

    In the time machine preferences chack the disks being backed up (or excluded) to be sure you are getting everything


    Also you can have a smaller library on your laptop so it is available when you are not hooked to your EHD and use iPhoto Library Manager - -  to move photos between libraries



  • h_lina_k Calculating status...
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    Sep 19, 2013 6:18 PM (in response to flavour2804)

    So what I just did and it seemed ot work is I used Terminal to go into my iPhoto Library folder.  In there I ran the command cp -rf Modified/* Originals/, which essentially copied all of the Modified photos over the Originals.  Then I ran revert to original so that the now duplicate modified versions are removed without messing up Apple's database.

  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (54,900 points)
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    Sep 19, 2013 7:43 PM (in response to h_lina_k)

    you totally destroyed teh entire non destructive edit capability of iPhoto


    If you do not wnat to keep your original photos (the digital negatives) then you should not use iPhoto but use a program that works like you want


    And you most certainly should not post suggestions that will cause users major problems over tiem



  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (121,745 points)
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    Sep 19, 2013 10:56 PM (in response to h_lina_k)

    Hilarious. You've just destroyed your Library, the entire non-destructive editing, and replaced your msters with lower quality previews that are missing lots of metadata. If you're suggesting this as a "solution" for other people you might do them the courtesty of warning them that it involves significant dataloss.

  • pcapca Calculating status...
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    Sep 20, 2013 1:52 AM (in response to Terence Devlin)

    Dear Terence Devlin,

    Thank you for your explaination, would you pleasea advise any app which I can use for photo editing and viewing (and have the ability to choose saving which file after editing)?


    Many thanks in advance.



  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (121,745 points)
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    Sep 20, 2013 3:30 AM (in response to pcapca)

    Pretty much any photo editor as opposed to photo manager.


    Some suggestions:


    Seashore (free)

    The Gimp (free)

    Graphic Coverter ($45 approx)

    Acorn ($50 approx)

    Pixelmator ($50 approx)

    Photoshop Elements ($75 approx)


    There are many, many other options. Search on MacUpdate or the App Store.

  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (113,300 points)
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    Sep 20, 2013 11:26 AM (in response to pcapca)

    If you want to manage your photos and still edit the orignal file and overwrite it with the edited versions look at Media Pro 1.  It has some built in editing capability but works very well with external editors like those listed by TD. This would give you management capabilities, i.e. adding keywords, grouping in catalog sets which are similar to albums in iPhoto, etc, and lets you write keywords, desacriptions and other metadata back to the orignal or edited file. 



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