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iWeb using spaces instead of _'s between words in titles stopping uploading

2785 Views 7 Replies Latest reply: Sep 30, 2009 6:31 AM by Missy Steph RSS
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Had major problems with iWeb ever since purchase when first came out. Given up on it til now cos it makes me so mad with not knowing what to do. Please help. My Blog site i've created is at

http://uk.geocities.com/blondefishwalker/Site/Site/Welcome.html

But iweb puts all teh pages i've created in one folder called Site in my Sites folder and there is consequently no index page outside this folder (as there would be in dreamweaver created site folders) for geocities to open as a homepage. I'm scared to move the index page out of teh site folder cos it will break links won't it?

Check out my homepage as it stands...

http://uk.geocities.com/blondefishwalker/

Look at pages on this top level i've took as screen grabs to show you what i'm dealing with here. Mainly cyberduck won't upload to geocities any files made in iweb which have spaces between the words in the file names. I am well aware spaces won't work with web sites and so when i manually insert underscores teh pages usually upload. Problem is there are loads of photos on one page and it would take forever to manually put _ in. The photo's come from iphoto and i thought iphoto 06 was supposed to intergrate into iweb. Why should i have to manually insrt _ everywhere?

Also my other problem is movies won't upload whatevr i do. Cyberduck if it doesn't have spaces to deal with disconnects 4.6mb into 24mb every time at the point of uploading a quicktime movie exported form imovie to a very reasonable 12mb.

All i want is a functioning web site i can trust to actually start uploading serious stuff like my photography instead of stupid blog info i'm using as a tester! Arrrgggghhh! Anger directed purely at iWeb! Please help!



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  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (70,835 points)
    But iweb puts all teh pages i've created in one
    folder called Site in my Sites folder and there is
    consequently no index page outside this folder (as
    there would be in dreamweaver created site folders)
    for geocities to open as a homepage. I'm scared to
    move the index page out of teh site folder cos it
    will break links won't it?


    It would probably help if you would publish right to the desktop so you can see what is happening. iWeb publishes a folder with the same name as your site has inside iWeb (Site by default) plus an index.html alongside it. These are the two items that need to be uploaded to a server. (Inside Site, or whatever your your site name is, is another index.html, plus various mypage.html files, plus various mypage_files folders. All this should stay where it is).

    I am well aware spaces won't work with web
    sites and so when i manually insert underscores teh
    pages usually upload.


    You need to put underscores in the pagenames inside iWeb, then save and republish and reupload. If you change names after publishing you break links.


    Problem is there are loads of
    photos on one page and it would take forever to
    manually put _ in. The photo's come from iphoto and i
    thought iphoto 06 was supposed to intergrate into
    iweb. Why should i have to manually insrt _
    everywhere?


    Perhaps because you are using a server which requires this. .Mac doesn't and various others do not either.
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  • James Tseng Level 6 Level 6 (12,120 points)
    Steph,

    Let me see if I can try to help in some areas... It sounds like you are using iWeb and publishing your site to a folder, right? And then you want to upload this folder to GeoCities, right? I assume that at the end of the process you would like people to be able to type in http://uk.geocities.com/blondefishwalker/ and have your site pop up.

    First of all, you have the folder "Site" nested currently within another folder called "Site" as well. Any reason why you couldn't get rid of the outer "Site" folder? Let me take a guess...in iWeb your site is named "Site" and when you "publish to folder" you created another folder named "Site" to publish into, yes?

    Well, if you look right beside (at the same level of) the Site folder there should be an index.html file. This file redirects eventually to your "Welcome.html" file. So basically, at the root level of your site folder, you should see two icons....one is index.html and the other is a folder that you named "Site" containing the file structure of your website. These are the two items that should exist at the root level of your GeoCities account (without the additional enclosing "Site" folder) and allow you to access the homepage with the "simple" geocities URL.

    In regards to your filenaming problem, I think you are using the iPhoto export function, right? Are you choosing "use album title" in the export? I think this is where you are running into naming issues. Could I suggest a workaround? Why don't you export using the original file names from the camera and then export them to a descriptive folder before dropping them into iWeb?

    Anyways, I've made several assumptions on how you are doing things. I may have gotten it completely wrong. But let me know if anything helps. We'll keep at it.

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  • QuickTimeKirk Level 8 Level 8 (47,350 points)
    If you use a server that doesn't allow spaces in the file name that is their rule and not a limitation of iWeb or how it creates html.
    It will add %20 in the file name (the Web way to indicate a space) and the file will upload properly.
    You can not use symbols or punctuation in a file name either. Jane's Dog.jpg will fail where janes_dog.jpg will work just fine.
    Last is how you uploaded to your GeoCities site.
    If you publish to folder (required for non .Mac files) you must use the folder name in the URL. You chose the folder name of Site and it works. Had you chosen missy (just an example) as the folder name and placed it directly into your GeoCities "Site" folder then the URL would be:
    http://uk.geocities.com/blondefishwalker/missy and it would also work.
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  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (70,835 points)
    I am interested to know what the other servers and
    hosts are that also don't require underscores in
    titles? I was looking at perhaps joining
    http://www.streamlinenet.co.uk/uu.php as it seems
    cheap and reliable. Would you know at all if this
    could be a host like you suggest?


    Just ask them. That is the only way to find out if they have problem with spaces. Or look at their Help for ftp uploading.


    except 1 photo which
    wouldn't upload, even though its file name was
    2.jpeg.


    It comes up if I click on its spot, even though it is not showing there. So it is being uploaded. But something on the page keeps it from showing.


    All the links work and I have to start with
    http://uk.geocities.com/blondefishwalker/Site/Welcome.
    html and not http://uk.geocities.com/blondefishwalker
    as then i get the blank file names page as i have no
    index along side my site folder what with iWeb
    publishing everything inside the site folder which i
    couldn't see how to change from in iWeb.


    When you do Publish to a Folder a dialogue comes up that lets you determine where it publishes, just like Save As in any other app. I think there should be an index.html alongside your folder called Site no matter where it is published.


    One more thing? Can i edit my site in dreamweaver at
    all? . I'd like to add my own pages and not always
    have to use the templates in iWeb, which are limited
    and obviously generic to iWeb. I thought maybe i
    could create a more personal home page in photoshop
    and dreamweaver and then link my iWeb created pages
    to that home page before uploading. Would that work?


    You can link to whatever you want from an iWeb page, as long as you have the url for the thing you are linking to. You can also edit iWeb pages with Dreamweaver or whatever you want before or after uploading. But of course there is no way of bringing any changes you might make back into iWeb.
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  • Cyclosaurus Level 6 Level 6 (12,915 points)
    As for publishing from iWeb as suggested, it exports
    direct to my Sites folder in my Home folder from
    where i know I can serve my own sites if i like using
    the apache server on mac's. However I can not view
    these pages from another computer on the internet
    even though they work on my mac. I obviously type in
    the url shown in my share system preference which
    should be correct but it doesn't work from other
    computers. I have no firewall which could affect
    acessing the sites, as it interfers with cyberduck my
    FTP making any external connections to e.g. geocities
    and i can't figure out the port that cyberduck uses
    to add to my firewall allowed list. I have FTP ticked
    in sharing pref's which i thought would let cyberduck
    through but doesn't.


    If you are behind a router you need to do port mapping from WAN side to your LAN side. ie: for HTTP: public side port 80 --> LAN side port 80 of fix IP address, let say 192.168.1.10 or maybe 10.0.1.10
    for FTP: open port 21 from WAN to LAN side.


    Since my original post, I've played around with iWeb
    before any of your answers and now have it loaded
    pretty much working fine except 1 photo which
    wouldn't upload, even though its file name was
    2.jpeg. All the links work and I have to start with


    for some reasons the thumbnail for that slot is transparent --> 2_framed.png

    If people interested, I'll upload one of my script to my site. It will rename photos with the photo captions, and padding irregular characters with underscores. It was a way I deal with the same problem you are having, beside it's nice when your friends and families download readable pictures instead of some gibberish, ie: IMG_060606.jpg?!?

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