Currently Being ModeratedSep 27, 2013 11:32 PM (in response to anatalsceo)
I am also having the same problem with my 2008 mac Pro 3,1 and I thought my PC GTX 560 was the culprit, but it was working flawlessly before the 10.8.5 update!
I also wrote to the feedback forums regarding this issue. This is Apple's Windows Vista! Lion ran better than this!
So I basically wiped my hard drive for no reason! A fresh install did not help at all! I should have never installed the cumulative patch after the clean install.
My bootable external 10.8.3 drive works flawlessly! Apple better release another patch soon! I am writing this with my Bootcamp Partition which is rock solid running windows 7!
Thanks Apple for turning my Mac into a PC ! I could have done without the hefty price tag! I might as well rip the guts out of my case and turn this into a Windows 7 PC!
Currently Being ModeratedSep 29, 2013 12:24 AM (in response to anatalsceo)
This now seems a pretty wide spread issue I have it on MB Air after upgrade to 10.8.5. I thought it was just cursor freezing but in fact I thi k it is a toatla freeze as so many have described.
I guess the moral is if the old OS works dont update for at least 3 months - if ever
Look forward to someone having a solution
Currently Being ModeratedSep 29, 2013 11:22 AM (in response to 55degreesnorth)
My Xserver 3.1 freezes all days 1-2 times, i do a fresh installation but is always the same :-/
10.8.5 is more badly as a MS update but i have the problem only on the Xserve 3.1 ll other machines run's fine !
MBP 6.2 never has this problem and run 10.8.5 too longer as my xserve
i hope apple do a a update to 10.8.6 is urgent!
Currently Being ModeratedSep 30, 2013 11:46 AM (in response to skynet3020)
The same problem, newest (2013) model of MacMini, has started freezing randomly after 10.8.5 update - seems to have something to do with apps such as iTunes or Activity Monitor...but hard to say. Shape up, Apple!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2013 10:22 PM (in response to anatalsceo)
I am posting this as a possible solution for others who have a 2008 3,1 MacPro who encounter the spinnnig beach ball of death (SBBOD) forcing them to shut down their Mac via the power button.
I am finally no longer gettig the spinning beachball of death! After formatting my drive and reinstalling OSX 10.8 + cummulative patch up to 10.8.4 I thought my problems were over, but they were not! I thought simply avoiding 10.8.5 would solve all my problems! This is what worked for me after scouring scattered solutions!
Before explaining here are my specs:
2008 MacPro 3,1
Processor 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Memory 10 GB Installed 6 memory slots in use, 2 available
Graphics ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB (now in slot 3) running one Monitor
Graphics PC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 1023 MB graphics (in slot 1)
Storage 1TB drives in all 4 internal drive bays
e-Sata Extender cable http://www.newertech.com/products/esata_cable.php
External Back-up Storage Two 1TD drives hooked up to the e-sata extender cables
First I want to mention that my users folder (thereefore my home folder) is on a seperate drive, and that I am using a Gigabye GTX 560 made for PC. Naturally I thought that the PC card was was causing the spinning beach ball of death! I was convinced that my system was healthy because I had no problems under Windows 7 on by Bootcamp Drive. Others suggested that the combination of the two cards was causing my problems. Others told me that my GTX 560 was the problem. Well everything was working fine in 10.8.3 and I started having issues in 10.8.4 and finally in 10.8.5 my MacPro was unusable!
First thing I did was carefully read this article http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/sbbod.html which discusses in depth different varieties and causes of the SBBOD. I also read articles that suggested that spotlight's indexing of my bootcamp drive was causing problems so I exempted my bootcamp drive from spotlight.
So I fixed my permisions and cleaned my caches using Mountain Lion cache cleaner http://www.northernsoftworks.com/mountainlioncachecleaner.html but still I expereinced freezing especailly when using Mac Mail so I aso followed this article http://jimmitchell.org/2008/02/20/rebuilding-the-mail-envelope-index/ but Mac Mail and safari still sent my Mac crashing.
So I concluded it was my PC card, so I removed it and reinstalled my old ATI Radeon 2600XT alone in Slot1.
Well guess what, everything is working great! Safari and Mail which are the applications I use the most no longer initiat the SBBOD. But hey! PC cards are supposed to work right!
I made certain that I had the proper Nvidia graphics drivers for 10.8.4 by going to the list supplied on Macrumors http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1440150
and installed the latest Cuda drivers http://www.nvidia.com/object/mac-driver-archive.html
Finally I decided to remove my ATI Radeon 2600XT in slot one and place it in Slot 3. I then Placed my GTX 560 in Slot 1 and decided to run an Apple Hardware Test http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1509 Their instructions are somewhat misleading! The software is on Disk One (from the oroginal Leopard Disks that shipped with my MacPro) but to make it work you need to press the D key before you hit the power button! Do not try to make this work by rebooting your system! Shut it down, press D, then power up your MacPro! I chose the extended Hardware test which took about 30 minutes or more.
Results came out perfect! Much to my relief my Macpro is healthy!
Ever since I placed my original ATI 2600XT in the third slot and my GTX 560 in the first slot under 10.8.4 I no longer have any SBBOD! When originally running both cards I had the ATI card in the second slot.
I have decided not to push my luck with 10.8.5. I will wait until Mavericks comes out!
Botton line! No one person or article solved my problem! I had to tinker with this system on my spare time for a few weeks to get it all straightened out!
I hope this helps someone with an aging 2008 MacPro 3,1. I also found this for those who want to add an SSD http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/PCIe/OWC/Mercury_Accelsior/RAID and this for a general makeover http://www.imore.com/how-breathe-new-life-dying-mac-pro
Currently Being ModeratedOct 7, 2013 9:49 PM (in response to Frank 3)
I installed the 10.8.5 Supplemental Update. It frozen, waiting for the restart. I had to shut it down with the power button. After bringing back up I still needed to restart in order to complete the installation. Since the restart, I have no freezing issues. It appears that the Supplemental Update fixed my issue. Hope this helps!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 9, 2013 2:00 AM (in response to anatalsceo)
I have Macbook Pro mid 2012 with Mac OS X 10.8.5
After updating Mac OS X I don't have random freezing problem actually.
When I open and start to work with XCode and iOS Simulator it freezes suddenly.
Even side panel on the right handside of the screen doesnot appear
everything slows down so so.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 9, 2013 9:52 PM (in response to anatalsceo)
I am also having a similar problem. If anyone has any help, I would much appreciate it. (Thank you in advance).
My issue started happening a few days ago, where the Mac seems to freeze after falling asleep and waking back up. I don't remember if the error started when I checked "put hard disk to sleep" in the Energy Saver options. But that was changed like last week or even more than a week ago and I didn't have a freezing problem until a few days ago.
What happens is if I'm using Chrome, I would click on a tab for it to load a webpage and then it just loads and loads (still a blank page), then if you try to change the URL in the address bar or close the tab, the spinning wheel cursor appears. If you hit "force quit", nothing happens. The cursor still moves until you try to do something else on the Mac, where the cursor spins but doesn't move & everything either then freezes or the cursor moves (spinning too) but nothing else does. It would just stay that way until I hard reset which I had to do 4-5 times the last 2-3 days..
It also happened when I was trying to save a document on Word, or when I had powerpoint open which then didn't save my last changes to my document and it's beyond frustrating for every reason for this to be happening :\ At first, I thought it was Chrome's fault becasue the first time the freeze happened was on Chrome. But then it was on Word and then Powerpoint. Now, I come to realize it happens after I wake the Mac up. Or it also happens when I wake the Mac up and then use Chrome or powerpoint.. same issue.. freeze.
MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Air - model: MacBookAir5,2
1 1.8 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2 cores
8 GB RAM
Intel HD Graphics 4000 - VRAM: 512 MB
OS X 10.8.4 (12E55) - Uptime: 0 days 0:0:34
APPLE SSD TS128E disk0 : (121.33 GB)
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 120.47 GB (35.81 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
Toshiba External USB 3.0 750.16 GB
TIMEMACHINE (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 472.55 GB
OTHER (disk1s2) <not mounted>: 277.6 GB
Logitech USB Receiver
Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Internal Memory Card Reader
Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Problem System Launch Daemons:
Problem System Launch Agents:
User Launch Agents:
[not loaded] com.linotype.FontFolderProtector.plist
User Login Items:
Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX
Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX
3rd Party Preference Panes:
User Internet Plug-ins:
Top Processes by CPU:
0% Google Chrome
Top Processes by Memory:
115 MB iTunes
98 MB Safari
74 MB Google Chrome
43 MB Google Chrome Helper
41 MB Reminders
41 MB Messages
41 MB Dock
41 MB WindowServer
33 MB mds
33 MB Notes
Virtual Memory Statistics
5.42 GB Free RAM
1.13 GB Active RAM
83 MB Inactive RAM
1.37 GB Wired RAM
275 MB Page-ins
0 B Page-outs
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2013 7:15 AM (in response to Arestine93)
I am not a software or hardware expert Arestine, but what I would do is the following in your case:
1. Download the the combo installer and install it http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676
2. Fix your permisions and clean your caches using Mountain Lion cache cleaner http://www.northernsoftworks.com/mountainlioncachecleaner.html
Maybe others can chime in!
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Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2013 5:48 PM (in response to anatalsceo)
I have a tricked out iMac purchased in Jan 2013. OS 10.8.5 has been ejecting my thunderbolt raid drive after sleeping. When I change preferences to never sleep, it seems to go into a kind of torpor after 3, 6 hours. (I'm not sure of the time.). I think it's been going to sleep anyhow and not waking up. The supplemental update which was supposed to correct the ejection problem failed on install.
Apple couldn't help on the phone. The genius guy didn't help either, but nothing appears to be wrong with the drive.
Now they are doing more extensive testing.
Any ideas anyone?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2013 9:23 PM (in response to anatalsceo)
Well, just an update, I seem to have fixed my problem and I haven't had an issue ever since.
What I did was uncheck the "Put Hard Disks to Sleep Whenever Possible" in Energy Saver and the freezing stopped. I saw this solution elsewhere, but I wasn't sure if it was the problem. I wasn't sure if I checked this option recently or it's always been checked so I didn't know whether or not it caused the problem. But by disabling it now, it seems to have solved my freezing issue. I wish I didn't have to uncheck this option to stop the freezing but oh well
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2013 8:25 PM (in response to anatalsceo)
MacBookPro is practically new from the apple store. Has only 25/500 gb of hard drive space used, no weird applications & no errant processes. Purchased a simple wor
Tried the update and machine froze after downloading and attempting to install. Froze after restarting (5+ hours of same loading bar while I was at work)
Force restart - Tried verifying & repairing hard disk
Freezes after restart every time.
Attempted the PRAM thing
Still freezes after restart
Freezes after restart
Starting to think there is something wrong with the hard drive.