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  • 45. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    SergZak Level 4 Level 4 (3,380 points)

    Vocalpoint wrote:

     

    Can you walk me thru what you did to get this to work? I cannot get the "other" area on my iPad to budge - no matter what I do in iTunes or how many times I reboot the iPad. Wonder if it's a Windows thing...I am using Win7 over here. Or my version of iTunes? I am on 11.0.4.4

     

    I also read this article on backups...

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946

     

    And it makes no mention of "pushed" update files being backed up.

    I'll try but I only did it once (that was enough as I didn't feel like fooling with this all night). Once I got the update off, I was done with it (I now have the update server blocked on my home Wi-Fi so this "virus" doesn't return...)

     

    1. Make sure that you have the full update file on your device (I did have it on the iPhone 4 in this case so this is what and why I'm relating to you). Check this in Settings>General>Software Update and if you only see the "Install" button, then you have the update installed & extracted, ready for installation.

     

    2. Connect the device to the PC and make a backup in iTunes

     

    3. Keep the device connected to the PC

     

    4. I wasn't sure if ggggggggg's  "Reboot the iOS device" meant reset (hold Sleep/Wake + Home until you see the Apple logo) or a power-cycle (press Sleep/Wake until unit asks to power off). I tried the reset multple times & got nowhere. What I *believe* ended up working was multiple power-cycles (power off, power on). This is WITH the device still connected to the PC. Remember after the unit powers back up to click on the device in iTunes to check the size of "Other". At one point after a few (not sure how many) power-cycles, the device actually freed up the ~2 GB that was sitting in Other and I immediately initiated another backup.

     

    Note that this was done on a MacBook Pro so I have no idea if this will work on a Windows PC (I do have a Win7 PC but I'm pretty much fed up and done with this mess). I have no desire to fool with it on Windows as well.

     

    Remember also to kill Wi-Fi on the device & keep it off external power until you either fill up the now-freed memory with "padding" (in my method of filling up the free memory with your own garbage) or add the Apple Update Server (mesu.apple.com) to your Wi-Fi access point's blocked list.

     

    Hope this helps!

  • 46. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    ggggggggg Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Hi VP

     

    When I rebooted my iPad it was not connected to the mac. So disconnect after backing up and then reboot 2-3 times. Reboot by pressing the home button and the power button simultaneously till you see the slider and then slide into off position. Also ensure you have killed all running apps before you reboot. Make sure the wifi / GSM / CDMA networks are off.

     

    I am using iTunes 10 and a mac mini running 10.6.4 - I am not sure how a windows 7 PC would effect this.

     

    hope it helps

     

    ggggggggg

  • 47. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    Vocalpoint Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ggggggggg wrote:

     

    Hi VP

     

    When I rebooted my iPad it was not connected to the mac. So disconnect after backing up and then reboot 2-3 times. Reboot by pressing the home button and the power button simultaneously till you see the slider and then slide into off position. Also ensure you have killed all running apps before you reboot. Make sure the wifi / GSM / CDMA networks are off.

     

    I am using iTunes 10 and a mac mini running 10.6.4 - I am not sure how a windows 7 PC would effect this.

     

    hope it helps

     

    ggggggggg

    Thanks! I will give this another whirl today...but I am still a bit skeptical that the actual pushed update file gets backed up. I have looked everywhere on my machine - and I see nothing that large being copied to any backup area....

     

    Will report back after trying your suggestions...

     

    VP

  • 48. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    Vocalpoint Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ggggggggg wrote:

     

    Hi VP

     

    When I rebooted my iPad it was not connected to the mac. So disconnect after backing up and then reboot 2-3 times. Reboot by pressing the home button and the power button simultaneously till you see the slider and then slide into off position. Also ensure you have killed all running apps before you reboot. Make sure the wifi / GSM / CDMA networks are off.

     

    I am using iTunes 10 and a mac mini running 10.6.4 - I am not sure how a windows 7 PC would effect this.

     

    hope it helps

     

    ggggggggg

     

    Okay...I followed this to the T - made sure WIFI was off and all apps were shut down:

     

    1. Opened iTunes (I do not allow any iDevice to start/sync to iTunes automatically)

    2. Connected the iPad via USB - iPad then appears in iTunes. "Other" area reads 2.70GB

    3. Took a fresh backup - which only took about 5 seconds - which continues to tease my suspicions that this pushed update file is not being backed up. You would think copying a 2.70GB file to the PC would take more than 5 seconds.

    4. Pressed the Eject button in iTunes to release the iPad connection

    5. Unplugged the cable from the PC

    6. Tried your reboot method of Home + Power. However - I do not get a slider to power off if I use this combo. The iPad just turns off.

    7. Did this method 3 times while disconnected

    8. After 3rd reboot - (with iTunes still open from #1) - I reconnected the iPad and it shows per normal in iTunes

    9. The "other" area - continues to read 2.70GB.

    10. Kinda getting annoyed now.

     

    Obviously there are differences in how your iPad works (Home+Power - Slider). With mine it's just Hold Power = Get Slider. And perhaps your verison of iTunes DOES backup system updates...whereas I cannot find any evidence using 11.0.4.4 does anything but backup the key items and data from the iPad. Again my backup is 48MB total...

     

    I may have to bite the bullet and wipe this thing.

     

    VP

  • 49. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    hexonxonx Level 4 Level 4 (2,455 points)

    This is correct that the forced iOS 7.0 download is not backed up.

     

    Last week, my Mini and 4S downloaded this 7.0 update. I made a backup and then went into settings and selected erase all content and settings. I then restored the backup I made and immediately turned off WiFi. There was no download of 7.0 on the Mini and 4S after restoring the backup.

     

    I then filled both devices up with music and leaving just under 1GB on both and then turned WiFi back on.

  • 50. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    Vocalpoint Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    hexonxonx wrote:

     

    This is correct that the forced iOS 7.0 download is not backed up.

     

    Last week, my Mini and 4S downloaded this 7.0 update. I made a backup and then went into settings and selected erase all content and settings. I then restored the backup I made and immediately turned off WiFi. There was no download of 7.0 on the Mini and 4S after restoring the backup.

     

    I then filled both devices up with music and leaving just under 1GB on both and then turned WiFi back on.

    So...does this restore - get you exactly back to the way the device was prior to doing the erase? If so - that is what I will do. I really do not want to recreate all my accts, Apple ID placements etc etc from scratch.

     

    Look forward to your update.

     

    Cheers!

     

    VP

  • 51. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    ggggggggg Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Hi VP,

     

    My backup took almost 2 minutes. If yours is taking 5 secs its obvious the source file is not being backed up. The difference could be because you are using a different version of iTunes or because you are on a windows machine.

     

    Well I guess Apple is no longer what it used to be.

  • 52. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    Vocalpoint Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ggggggggg wrote:

     

    Hi VP,

     

    My backup took almost 2 minutes. If yours is taking 5 secs its obvious the source file is not being backed up. The difference could be because you are using a different version of iTunes or because you are on a windows machine.

     

    Well I guess Apple is no longer what it used to be.

     

    Must be your earlier version of iTunes and possibly because you are on a Mac.

     

    Actually - now that I know I can simply backup my iPad via iTunes and then wipe it and restore it back...I am glad the update file is not included in the backup.

     

    Seems this is the easiest way to proceed - at least I will not have to reeneter all my data, settings, apps etc...

     

    VP

  • 53. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    Techgaming88 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You chose to update it

  • 54. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    hexonxonx Level 4 Level 4 (2,455 points)

    Yes, restoring your backup will make your iPad exactly the way it was before the erase all settings, without the forced download.

  • 55. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    Vocalpoint Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Techgaming88 wrote:

     

    You chose to update it

    Not sure what you mean here - but if you are implying that I pressed something to initate this download - you are sadly mistaken.

     

    This 2.9GB file forced itself onto my iPad with no intervention from me whatsoever.

     

    VP

  • 56. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    AntonLargiader Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Techgaming88, you and many others don't know what you're talking about with this issue.

     

    Happened to my iPad 2 over the weekend. Normally I charge from my iMac where I have to (every time) decline the IOS 7 download. Over the weekend I charged at a friend's house with a wall charger and next time I opened it up, there is the message that it has downloaded 7.02. And my 'other' is now nearly 6GB where it has usually been just over three.

     

    When  click 'backup' in iTunes, it only takes a few seconds. I have rebooted a few times with no change. Any suggestions?

  • 57. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    SergZak Level 4 Level 4 (3,380 points)

    @Techgaming88

     

    Bzzzzzt...wrong answer.

     

    The update is being auto-pushed to devices. Apple does not notify you nor ask your permission to do this. After being pushed to your device, it's prepared (decompressed) where it will then proceed to hold up to 3.1 GB of your device's storage hostage until you install it or find some way to remove it (Apple does not supply any way to remove it). No, the update is NOT applied until you choose to do it but in the meantime, 3.1 GB is, as I mentioned, held by Apple. Read through this topic from the beginning...all the information is there.

  • 58. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    WhiteVolvo Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Right.  It did it to me. This thread is getting long, so to catch everybody up...........Apparently if you are plugged into external power and have the wifi on then it automatically downloads the update.  You don't have to install it.   So you need to unplug it when you turn on the Wifi and then turn OFF the Wifi when you charge it.

  • 59. Re: Apple Forced iOS7 update on my iPad2 !
    mattbod Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Let's hope apple take note of this and the extremely negative feedback I sent them so they no longer intrude on people's decisions on what to do with their devices. People should not have to go through this rigmarole :(