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tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hey all,

I bought an enclosure, installed a sata drive that I didn't install an os on years ago but used for capturing video.  I would like to install osx5.8 and then x.6 on it so I can install FCS 1 on it and capture video again.

 

I've got the drive usb 3 connected to my macbook pro, how do I get the operating system on it without erasing any of the footage I've got on it?

 

Another thing, the 5.8 disks are from a macbook that is no longer functional.  Will those disks even work?

 

Thanks,

 

Ted

  • 1. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    Tlix Level 4 Level 4 (1,420 points)

    Installing the operating system onto the drive shouldn't delete anything from it.

     

    However you need to make sure that the drive is in the right format. It will need to be using GUID and have a Mac OS Extended (Journaled) partition. Be aware that trying to repartition the drive WILL delete the data on it though.

  • 2. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So I will need to do that using Disk Utility?  I can move the data on the drive onto my laptop for the time being and then move it back once that's done.

     

    Another thing, I put the install disk in my laptop and restarted the computer and it never started back up.  I just got a white screen, so I held the power button till it went off, started it back up and held the option key and everything is fine now, but how do I get myself into 'install mode'?  System Preferences/StartUp Disk?

  • 3. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    OGELTHORPE Level 7 Level 7 (25,775 points)

    If you have used this external HDD before, it probably is already formatted correctly.  To make certain, when connected to the Mac, click on the Icon (COMMAND I) and see what the resulting display shows in the format field.

     

    If you want to install Snow Leopard on that external disk, you will have to get a retail copy from the Apple online store:

     

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

     

    Ciao.

  • 4. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have used it but it was as an internal slave drive on a (now no functioning) G5, and thank you for the link but I do already have a snow leopard disk.

  • 5. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    OGELTHORPE Level 7 Level 7 (25,775 points)

    Did you check the format per my suggestion?

     

    Screen Shot 2013-10-07 at 9.32.29 AM.png

    If the Snow Leopard disk is a gray one, it will only work if it is the original installation for that specific Mac model.  If it is not, then you need a retail disk as shown in my link. 

     

    Ciao.

  • 6. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The snow leopard is a retail disk.  But the disks from the old MacBook are grey.  I will check the format when I get home.  I paint houses by day.  Play with computers by night! 

  • 7. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    One thing you will likely have to do since the disk originally came from a G5 is repartition it with Disk Utility so you can change the drive map from Apple Partition Map to GUID.

  • 8. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    When I Get Info, it tells me the format is MacOs Extended (Journaled).  I've moved the data off the drive, now do I reformat using Disk Utility?  How do I go about installing with the installer disk in the MBP's optical drive and avoid the issues stated above?

     

    Thanks

     

    Ted

  • 9. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    The format and the partition map are two different things. Put the disk from the G5 into any open bay of your Mac Pro (with the computer turned off, of course). Open Disk Utility and highlight the G5's drive. At the lower right, it will show what the current partition map is. Example:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-10-08 at 8.15.11 AM.png

     

    Mine notes GUID Partition Map. If yours comes up as Apple Partition Map (and it likely will), you'll have to repartition the drive.

     

    You will lose everything on that drive in the process, so make sure you've backed up any data you need to save, first.

     

    After highlighting the physical drive in Disk Utility as shown above, click on the Partition tab. The drive layout graphic will default to "Current". Even if the entire drive is one partition and you still want it to be one, you must still change Current to "1 Partition". When you do that, the Options button below the graphic will now be active. Click that and change the radio button choice to GUID. Save the changes and then click the Apply button.

     

    At that point, you may as well do you cloning, too. Click on the Restore tab. You just drag and drop what partition you want to duplicate to where. Here, I'm telling Disk Utility to clone whatever's on the drive Mac Pro to Video:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-10-08 at 8.27.28 AM.png

     

    Assuming your current drive already has Snow Leopard, FCS1 and your other software on it, you'll be done. The old drive will be an exact duplicate and you can boot to either. To clear the original, smaller drive, restart and boot to the duplicated drive. Then erase the original.

  • 10. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Will this work even though I have the drive in question in an enclosure because I don't have a Mac Pro?  Just a MacBook Pro?

  • 11. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    Oops! Sorry, misread your Mac model. But yes, the procedure is the same. Your main drive will end up duplicated on the external.

     

    You can boot from the external and run your OS and apps from there all day long, but it will be quite a bit slower. USB or FireWire can't transfer data anywhere near the same rate as SATA.

  • 12. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    See therein lies my problem.  The MBP has Mountain Lion on it but I need Snow Leopard on the external drive, otherwise I can't install Final Cut Studio 1 on it.  Can't afford the $300 bucks for FCP X right now.

  • 13. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    Okay, we need to back up a bit. Did this MBP come with Mountain Lion? If so, you can't run Snow Leopard at all. At least, not as a bootable OS. You'd have to purchase Parallels or VMware software, install Snow Leopard Server in the VM (virtual machine) software, and then your PowerPC apps. So you'd end up with Snow Leopard running concurrently within Mountain Lion. There is no other way. Snow Leopard Server can be purchased directly from Apple for $20.

  • 14. Re: installing osx on an external drive
    tedp1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Well, guess that means I'm dead in the water then.  By the time I went to all that trouble and expense I'd be further ahead just to buy FCP X.

     

    Thanks for all the help everybody.

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