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Oct 4, 2013 2:53 PM in response to alizwellby MikeLenich,Did you try the boot into Safe Mode mentioned above? It's worked for & so far so good - no other wifi or other troubles, alls back to normal...
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Oct 4, 2013 5:31 PM in response to MikeLenichby alizwell,I'll try it again, but it didn't work the last time I tried it.
Here's what I have now:
Software OS X 10.8.5 (12F45)
This is after applying the Combo update.
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Oct 4, 2013 6:24 PM in response to alizwellby alizwell,It's working now, maybe it needed the Combo update before trying the safe mode to clear the startup cache....
Thanks!
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Oct 4, 2013 8:26 PM in response to motherdrumby Paulie81,can you please tell me what installer you ran in safe mode?? Was it the 10.8.5 combo update?
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Oct 4, 2013 11:29 PM in response to alizwellby MacLion,I have a late 2008 Macbook Pro and I had the same issue with the only solution I could find to work was to go back to 10.8.4 (where the machine works just fine). I did not apply the Airport Utility 6.3.1 update. After the 10.8.5 supplemental update, I decided to have another go at it. I reset the SMC and ran the newer 10.8.5 combo updater. After the installer ran and the machine restarted, and guess what - no wifi again! I decided to try applying the 10.8.5 supplemental update alone (not as part of the combo). After that wifi was working again, but just for that boot - after restart it was gone again! I went into safe mode and all is fine - wifi works in 10.8.5. I'm not running anything special that would be disabled in safe mode, so I don't think that the recent releases made any adjustments to avoid the wifi problem. I think I'll have to go back to 10.8.4 again -- *sigh*.
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Oct 5, 2013 1:28 AM in response to happydantby happydant,Fixed! Nothing with OS but just the antenna's cables removed by apple center guys (grrrrr....) during the ram upgrade.
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Oct 5, 2013 10:30 AM in response to happydantby alizwell,Well so much for that, I'm back to no wifi.... In order to get it back I have to boot in safe mode, then back to regular mode. It appears as though something is not getting cleaned up after each reboot. Does anyone know how to clear the startup cache without having to reboot? I know this is a workaround, but I don't really want to keep rebooting in safe mode or revert to an older OS version.
If Apple is monitoring this forum/community, please have an engineer take look at this.
Here's my configuration:
10.5.8 with Combo Update
MacBook 5,1
Latest boot and SMC versions
Thanks!
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Oct 6, 2013 10:36 PM in response to MacLionby MacLion,Update:
Still at 10.8.5, I did a deletion and re-addition of services in the Network system preferences after restart and, as usual, got wifi for that boot - and lost it on restart. So discouraged I decided to walk away from the machine and give things a rest. After a number of hours, I came back and restarted the machine and TO MY SURPRISE I now had wifi again!
Although thrilled, I've read a number of other posts of users who came back to find wifi but lost it after restart or three or four restarts later. So at some point I'll restart the machine and see if this lasts or is just a temporary treat!
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Oct 7, 2013 4:55 AM in response to barters1by Paulie81,After some research online and a few hours of troubleshooting I think I have finally figured out what the problem is. The issue is not due to the OSX 10.8.5 update but Airport Utility update 6.3.1. Based on the feedback of other users this update kills Wifi access on late 2008 Macbook Pro. I'm not sure if this also extends to other models.
To fix this on my MAC I did the following.
- Run a time machine backup as a precaution.
- Restart MAC and boot into the Recovery menu. Do this by holding down "Command" & "R" keys on reboot.
- Go into "Disk Utility" and run a "Repair Disk" followed" by a "Repair Disk Permissions"
- Exit disk utility and restart mac into normal boot. WI-FI will probably not be working as per my experience.
- Restart Mac again into the recovery menu. (follow step 2)
- Once in the Recovery Menu check that WIFI is connected. It seemed to work for me every time I was in the recovery menu. If not working try using Ethernet.
- Click "Reinstall OSX" This will download a fresh copy of 10.8.5 and install it over your current copy. It won't delete your existing files and settings, all will be preserved. Follow the steps and ensure you install on your normal Mac boot partition. It will most likely be named "Macintosh HD"
- Proceed with the installation (will take approx 1hr or so).
- Once complete, your Mac will restart and boot normally. At this stage you should have WI-FI connectivity working.
In my case, by following this process, a fresh copy of 10.8.5 was installed whilst reverting Airport Utility back to version 6.2. This seems to have fixed the problem and I have had solid WI-FI connectivity after 4 restarts.
Just make sure you don't run a software update and install Airport Utility 6.3.1. In fact, make sure you ignore this update so you don't accidentally install it in future.
Again, this has worked for me. Hopefully you can achieve the same results. Otherwise just pray Apple release a software update to fix this problem soon.
Paul
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Oct 7, 2013 5:03 AM in response to Paulie81by Paulie81,Hi All
Sorry to dissapoint you but I just tried another restart and guess what... no wifi. Seems like the finger pointing is back on 10.8.5 update. Please don't waster your time with my posted solution.
Paul
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Oct 8, 2013 6:33 AM in response to barters1by alizwell,All-
We seem to be wasting a lot of time on this issue and I'm not seeing anything from Apple being posted here to let us know they have recreated this condition and are actively working on a resolution. Am I expecting to much from Apple or are they better than I'm seeing so far?
This seems to be a problem with the upgrade to 10.8.5. I think I've tried every combination posted plus some of my own to know avail. The problem continues to show its ugly head after all attempts so don't waste your time thinking you'll hit on the right combination, it won't last. :-(
Apple- please help!
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Oct 8, 2013 7:00 AM in response to alizwellby AndrewCSH,Agreed. The only thing that works is going back to an earlier version.
I am also concerned that this problem will migrate into Mavericks. I will not move to that until I know there has been a resolution. My guess - and I'm not a technical expert by any means - is that there is something in 10.8.5 that is incompatible with the WiFi card in that particular model/model year. It seems to be the only Macbook affected by this. When I first had the problem I did a Google search on Mountain Lion and wifi issues and got nothing. When I searched 10.8.5 and wifi I found all the discussion.
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Oct 8, 2013 8:13 AM in response to alizwellby MikeLenich,Been talking with Apple on this issue - the Safe Mode/Normal Mode reboot worked for me for several days, then no wifi condition appeared again, corrected only by repeating Safe Mode/Normal Mode reboot. I've just been told Apple engineers are aware of this condiditon and are working on it - no time frame is yet available, was advised to check for updates and keep OS current.
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Oct 8, 2013 8:34 AM in response to MikeLenichby AndrewCSH,Keeping the OS current was what broke it in the first place.
Glad to hear they're aware and working on it.
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Oct 8, 2013 9:09 AM in response to AndrewCSHby Squabbler,I moved from MS to Apple 18m or so ago because I was so impressed with the fact that everything seemed to just do what it was supposed to. At least, that was the iPhone experience. My MBA too was marvellous to begin with. As was my ATV. And the Airport Express.
However, recently 'upgrades' have soured my whole experience. Downloading firmware for the ATV and the AE made a mess of things for a while. Then this whole Lion 10.8.5 wifi problem has been a nightmare (and continues to be). Quite where the problem lies with MBA, ATV, AE, 10.8.5 is anybody's guess. Perhaps its all my incompetence. But incompetents like me need stuff that doesn't require any technical ability.
If I wanted to try and pretend to be able to sort out all this stuff for hours every day rather than just use the kit for what its designed for I would have stayed with my Dell Laptop ...
Interesting that the new OS is to be called 'Maverick'. A maverick is, in one sense, someone that doesn't behave as expected. I hope that this is not what Apple products will become: ones that don't do what we expect them to!