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Q: MacBook Pro (2007) 3,1 & 10.8.5 freezing

While it goes without saying, firstly if you possess one of these MacBooks (I believe the unofficial model description of these MacBooks is the "Santa Rosa" model), do yourself a HUGE favor and make a back-up before attempting to upgrade to OS X 10.8.5.

 

Regarding my expereinces thus far attemtping to update:

 

At the onset, I can attest to the fact that my MacBook Pro runs OS X 10.8.4 flawlessly. Furthermore, the Apple Service Diagnostic disc for my 2007 MacBook Pro 15'' 3,1 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz A1226 MA895LL/A reports absolutely NO Hardware issues whatsoever including the memory check. I have tried EVERYTHING in performing ALL the obvious troubleshooting (i.e. permissions repair, SMC & PRAM rest, subtracting/adding memory modules etc.).


I have also installed OS X 10.8.5 in all three (3) possible configurations (software update, combo update and the full/clean Mountain Lion OS X 10.8.5 .app install) and all have produced the same result with the system freezing. The vast majority of times after a successful install, it will freeze right at boot up (i.e. white screen, grey apple, and spinning wheel) though several times I have actually gotten to both the login stage as well as in the desktop itself before it freezes. I have tried installing it both on internal and external hard drives yet it makes no difference. I am at a complete and utter loss as to what the heck to do. I have owned a mac of some sort since 1998 and I have never experienced a situation regarding an incremental OS update like this ever before.

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4), 2007 MacBook Pro 15'' 3,1 Intel Cor

Posted on Sep 19, 2013 9:22 AM

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As I am the creator of this particular discussion, I am going to effectively end my need to have this issue resloved as I have taken care of it myself.   Since posting my findings earlier yesterday, I have delved much deeper into this matter and have discovered all that made my MacBook Pro unusable with the current OS X 10.8.5 release.  I have been able to extract/remove/replace precisely what was at fault and have essentially created my own OS X 10.8.5 update.   My MacBook Pro now runs OS X 10.8.5 as it should...flawlessly.   Pardon me for not elaborating any further however in case anyone is unaware, Apple pays a handsome sum of money to folks to perfom task exactly as I have accomplished and far be it for me to interfere with there work.   Anyway in my case, whether an "official" fix is ever eventually released is irrelevant as I do not need it any longer.

Posted on Sep 25, 2013 1:53 PM

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  • by recoverie,

    recoverie recoverie Sep 29, 2013 9:52 PM in response to tj_andersen
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    Sep 29, 2013 9:52 PM in response to tj_andersen

    So what did you do to fix the problem?  I have a similar mbp, purchased Feb 2008.  Upgraded to leopard as soon as it was available, then snow leopard last year.  Last night I downloaded mtn lion.  Ever since doing that my computer freezes at start up and after log in.

     

    I talked with an Apple rep who eventually had me do a disk scan and wipe.  I reinstalled mtn lion and still have the same issues.  Currently everything is working after I turn the computer off and on again four or five times.

     

    Thanks for your reply.

  • by tj_andersen,

    tj_andersen tj_andersen Sep 29, 2013 10:08 PM in response to recoverie
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    Sep 29, 2013 10:08 PM in response to recoverie

    Is your Mountain Lion .app that you downloaded the latest OS X 10.8.5 full release ?

  • by recoverie,

    recoverie recoverie Sep 29, 2013 10:12 PM in response to tj_andersen
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    Sep 29, 2013 10:12 PM in response to tj_andersen

    Well, I don't know about "full release," but, when I click on "About this Mac," version 10.8.5 is shown.

  • by tj_andersen,

    tj_andersen tj_andersen Sep 29, 2013 10:34 PM in response to recoverie
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    Sep 29, 2013 10:34 PM in response to recoverie

    Ok fair enough it is the full OS X 10.8.5.    The first thing I would do is contact Apple and explain that you just purchased the full OS X 10.8.5 though due to the known bugs and its present inability to run on your particular model, you would instead prefer to have access and download the OS X 10.8.4 full version .app.   The point being that with OS X 10.8.4 you will have the last Mountain Lion version known to work properly on your machine.   Once that is in your possession, install it to insure that OS X 10.8.4 is functioning properly as it should.   Once completed, come back and report your findings.   I will check back with you then.

  • by isabel137,

    isabel137 isabel137 Sep 29, 2013 11:23 PM in response to isabel137
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    Sep 29, 2013 11:23 PM in response to isabel137

    Maybe solved the problem on a MBPro 2007 3,1 17", OS X 10.8.5(combo updater). System boots with all other extensions as 10.8.5 versions, and, these as 10.8.4 versions -

     

    IOPCIFamily.kext   - the 10.8.5 version stopped both normal and safe booting

    AppleAHCIPort.kext  - the 10.8.5 version is incompatible with the 10.8.4 IOPCIFamily.kext

     

    Because of errors showing in the console, "missing dependences" etc., and operational oddities,  removed the new kexts -

     

    • AppleHSSPIHIDDriver.kext
    • AppleHSSPISupport.kext
    • AppleIntelLpssDmac.kext
    • AppleIntelLpssGspi.kext
    • AppleIntelLpssSpiController.kext

     

    In way over my head, so could anyone with more knowledge please confirm and suggest better modifications...Thanks

  • by isabel137,

    isabel137 isabel137 Sep 30, 2013 11:41 AM in response to isabel137
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    Sep 30, 2013 11:41 AM in response to isabel137

    System still seems stable. No particular Console errors.

    Have sent Apple feedback....Cheers

  • by isabel137,

    isabel137 isabel137 Oct 3, 2013 9:20 PM in response to tj_andersen
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    Oct 3, 2013 9:20 PM in response to tj_andersen

    Anyone tried the OSXUpd10.8.5Supp.dmg ?

  • by BramJ,

    BramJ BramJ Oct 5, 2013 4:41 AM in response to isabel137
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    Oct 5, 2013 4:41 AM in response to isabel137

    I have Tried OSXUpd10.8.5Supp.dmg and my Macbook Pro 3,1 works fine now , with network cable attached. :-)

  • by gbhardy,

    gbhardy gbhardy Oct 7, 2013 4:35 AM in response to isabel137
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    Oct 7, 2013 4:35 AM in response to isabel137

    Yes, I have tried the update

    << Anyone tried the OSXUpd10.8.5Supp.dmg >>. I installed it. Looks promising now, although the features of this update do not seem to imply that I could find a solution to our freezing problems. Nevertheless, the systems had been up and running for quite a while. It was a desperate move, suggested by your question. Just desperate, no rationale behing it. Let me summarize how things did develop. A lot of time spent on this issue and I am not sure it is solved. I will keep you and the forum updated, if you are interested.

     

    I did not know the support package OSXUpd10.8.5Supp.dmg existed. I did install it yesterday, after I had started from scratch, namely:

     

    1) had installed 10.8.5 previously during normal update cycle. Experienced freezing problem many many times for quite a while. last two weeks, more or less.

     

    2) did reinstall of Mountain Lion on top of previous installation, downloading Mountain Lion again from App Store.

     

    3) downloaded update to 10.8.5 again yesterday. Still experienced freezing problems. Disconnected Ethernet Cable. Started working on wifi only.

     

    4) installed update to 10.8.5. still had freezing issues. was very discouraged.

     

    5) read your note on OSXUpd10.8.5Supp.dmg. Installed it, worked this morning on wifi only for about 4 hours.  decided to switch back to Ethernet cable. still working, no interruption. also with Power Supply disconnected, just working on battery. battery exhausted. turned power back in. still working. watched a Netflix movie.

     

    Have started time machine to do full backup of this configuration, just in case. Hope it is a good one.

     

    System is up and running:

     

    My configuration:

    Hardware Overview:

     

      Model Name:          MacBook Pro

      Model Identifier:          MacBookPro3,1

      Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo

      Processor Speed:          2.2 GHz

      Number of Processors:          1

      Total Number of Cores:          2

      L2 Cache:          4 MB

      Memory:          4 GB

      Bus Speed:          800 MHz

      Boot ROM Version:          MBP31.0070.B07

      SMC Version (system):          1.16f11

      Serial Number (system):          W8744GE1X91

      Hardware UUID:          00000000-0000-1000-8000-001EC20A53B5

      Sudden Motion Sensor:

      State:          Enabled

     

    OSX 10.8.5.png

     

    Have a nice day all of you guys, proud owners of memorabilia hardware ....

     

    Giulio or gb,

     

    gbhardy as appreciation of UK mathematician

     

    G. H. Hardy,  A Mathematician’s Apology

     

     

  • by gbhardy,

    gbhardy gbhardy Oct 7, 2013 4:40 AM in response to isabel137
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    Oct 7, 2013 4:40 AM in response to isabel137

    Back up is going on. And I am using the mac via internet cable plugged in. No wifi!.

    Have a nice day.

    Backing_up.png

  • by isabel137,

    isabel137 isabel137 Oct 7, 2013 11:00 AM in response to gbhardy
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    Oct 7, 2013 11:00 AM in response to gbhardy

    Thanks for the info. Perhaps the Wifi/ethernet cable issue has been solved.

     

    My issue is that laptop cannot successfully boot normally, or, in Safe mode. The supplemental update has not solved this problem. However, a fresh install, on an external drive, of 10.8.4 then updated with the Oct. 3rd 10.8.5 combo updater, does boot. So I quess the mess created by the original 10.8.5 updater is not fixed with the supplemental. Unfortunately I do not have a backup of the state before all the updating, so am looking at erase and install, or, wait until Mavericks.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Oct 7, 2013 11:08 AM in response to tj_andersen
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    Oct 7, 2013 11:08 AM in response to tj_andersen

    That is most selfish and arrogant post I've seen here in a long time.  This is a "user helping user" forum and not a "get back at Apple" forum. You have no idea what this community is about, do you? 

     

    OT

  • by blubb1,

    blubb1 blubb1 Oct 8, 2013 4:33 AM in response to isabel137
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    Oct 8, 2013 4:33 AM in response to isabel137

    hey!

     

    by replacing the IOPCIFamily.kext my issues completely resolved I was too afraid to  install the supplemental update, though...

     

    thanks for your hard work!

  • by isabel137,

    isabel137 isabel137 Oct 8, 2013 10:45 AM in response to blubb1
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    Oct 8, 2013 10:45 AM in response to blubb1

    I am just glad to be able to help for once after being the recipient so many times.

     

    The supplemental update definitely has not solved my problem.


    Using a clone, of my 10.8.4 updated with the original 10.8.5, which freezes during boot, I experimented by running a 10.8.4 full installer on it, and, voila, it boots.

    Now I will try the new 10.8.5 combo supplemental on it to see what happens.

  • by isabel137,

    isabel137 isabel137 Oct 8, 2013 11:20 AM in response to blubb1
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    Oct 8, 2013 11:20 AM in response to blubb1

    Did not work. Guess I'll stick with 10.8.4, and, see what Mavericks brings.

    Cheers

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