Currently Being ModeratedSep 29, 2013 8:30 AM (in response to Saxman)
There are accompanying crashes shown in Console or ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ here - none for you ?
I've not tied it to particular sites and/or extensions so far.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 7, 2013 3:30 PM (in response to andyBall_uk)
It doesn't always crash, it just gets burdened with using up so much RAM, that it will refresh the Web Content on its own, so there would be no record of a crash. Usually, I will do it manually, whenever things slow, such as writing or non-responsive to mouse clicks, etc., but it lately has been doing it on its own, even when everything seems to be working fine, and I'm right in the middle of writing or viewing something, which then disappears. Very frustrating....
Currently Being ModeratedOct 8, 2013 9:38 AM (in response to ~Bee)
Sorry, obviously not 10, but 5.... 5.1.10
And now I'm seeing the Web Content (using about 2+GBs of RAM) jump up to as much as 400% CPU usage!! I then must wait a bit, then it settles down to just 75% - 50%.... Facebook tends to cause huge RAM usage, but even when I delete it, it's still very high usage.... I can even run Opera far longer without high RAM usage than when I use Safari.... very aggravating, since I would expect Apple's own browser to function more efficiently with its own OS & hardware...
Currently Being ModeratedOct 10, 2013 8:27 PM (in response to Saxman)
Today, Safari has been self-rebooting almost every HALF-HOUR! What is up with this? Sheesh....
Currently Being ModeratedOct 10, 2013 9:47 PM (in response to Saxman)
You've been having problems with Safari for a really long time. It really should not be happening to you. I'm thinking it's an extra Internet "add on" that's causing the problem. There's a great little app that a fellow ACS expert has developed that I think might hep us identify the culprit. It's free, and I can vouch for it's safety:
If you download that app, and copy and paste the results, it should get us way further towards getting to a final solution.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2013 8:53 AM (in response to ~Bee)
Yet another bug Apple still hasn't corrected. Your last post of course, does not appear on this page, yet I was able to read it when I was notified via email.... You'd think Apple could get their own website to at least work properly...
Anyway, I did download that app (thank you), and here's what it came up with:
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2010)
iMac - model: iMac11,2
1 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3 CPU: 2 cores
12 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5670 - VRAM: 512 MB
ArcanaStartupSound - Path: /Library/StartupItems/ArcanaStartupSound
Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549) - Uptime: 1 day 1:43:14
WDC WD1001FALS-40Y6A0 disk0 : (931.51 GB)
(null) (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 200 MB
Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 931.19 GB (485.76 GB free)
OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5680H
Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
APC Back-UPS ES 450 FW:844.K2 .D USB FW:K2
Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Internal Memory Card Reader
Problem System Launch Daemons:
[not loaded] org.samba.winbindd.plist
Problem System Launch Agents:
User Launch Agents:
[not loaded] com.adobe.ARM.202f4087f2bbde52e3ac2df389f53a4f123223c9cc56a8fd83a6f7ae.plist
User Login Items:
CrashPlan menu bar
3rd Party Preference Panes:
APC PowerChute Personal Edition
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
User Internet Plug-ins:
Top Processes by CPU:
2% Activity Monitor
Top Processes by Memory:
2.64 GB WebProcess
2.08 GB WindowServer
811 MB Mail
664 MB Safari
332 MB java
98 MB Preview
86 MB mds
74 MB Finder
61 MB Dropbox
49 MB coreservicesd
Virtual Memory Statistics
3.86 GB Free RAM
6.45 GB Active RAM
940 MB Inactive RAM
798 MB Wired RAM
3.19 GB Page-ins
316 MB Page-outs
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2013 9:16 AM (in response to Saxman)
I have exactly the same problem since upgrading to IOS 7, but I have only been been given simple and rather stupid advices frióm support. The problem however seems to be more frequent on a specific web site, www.di.se.
Apple web pages seems to be working OK. The Safari shut downs/re-starts is extremly annoying!!!!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2013 12:45 PM (in response to segran)
This has really become a MAJOR ISSUE! I can understand, if Safari gets so bogged down in it's love for overeating RAM, that it just stops functioning, it would then be time to reboot the Web Content, and WE can do that ourselves, simply by using Activity Monitor. Instead, maybe due to the latest updating (for me, up to Safari 5.1.10), it is choosing to reboot itself WHENEVER IT CHOOSES! I am usually in the middle, or at the end, of writing out a message, or filling out a form, etc, and POOF, it all goes away!!
I am going to have to call Apple myself and complain about this one, as it's been driving me crazy, happening far too often throughout the day! It's ironic, and even more maddening, that if you accidentally hit something that would take you away from the page, a warning window pops up asking if you want to leave, or finish writing what you're writing. However, when SAFARI wishes to take you & everything you're doing on the page, OFF, there is no warning, no option to hold it off, at least until you can save what you're in the middle of! Once I see the url beginning to turn blue, it's too late to try and highlight & save all my work! This really, really is infuriating.....
Currently Being ModeratedOct 12, 2013 9:13 AM (in response to Saxman)
Saxman, You have a lot of third-party stuff installed, one of which is near-fatal to Safari.
SIMBL is worst:
This one shows up in a lot of crash repeorts:
Programs that claim to clean your Mac are largely troublemakers:
There is so much like this on your computer that I think it wise to practically start over with Safari and NOT load it or you system with third-party cr@p.
I am going to have to call Apple myself and complain about this one,
When you call, be sure to tell them you've installed a large quantity of third-party garbage. What you have done is like buying a Ford and then yelling at them after you install a bunch of Chevy parts that cause the Ford to run poorly.
Safari runs like a charm me and my family (about 18 Macs among the five of us) and always has becasuse I've never installed more than the bare minimum of extensions.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 12, 2013 1:03 PM (in response to Allan Jones)
Hey Allan, Well, most of these programs are not anything I voluntarily installed, and so don't really know what they even are, much less how they got in there. I've looked and done searches and still can't find some of these, where are they?
Nevermind, I found them, no thanks to doing a search, wonder why none of them even showed up when I searched?
I'll delete them, and see what happens, I had only been looking at plugins & extensions, no one's ever mentioned "launch agents", etc.... neither here, nor when I've talked to Apple techs.....
Currently Being ModeratedOct 12, 2013 2:47 PM (in response to Allan Jones)
Well, I cleared out some of those bad programs, and some other unneeded files & programs, rebooted Safari, and it's running as bad or worse as ever, refreshing itself within 20 minutes of opening it, and Java is still showing it's in play, and using at times, nearly 50% CPU, even though I have it deselected in the preferences.... And before I did the cleaning, the Web Content for some reason soared up to 999% CPU usage!!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 12, 2013 8:56 PM (in response to Saxman)
We have a start. Please run Etrecheck again so we can see if something is dodging your attempts to rid yourself of the pesky components.
Well, most of these programs are not anything I voluntarily installed, and so don't really know what they even are, much less how they got in there.
Good to know. Some of these troublemakers are hidden in pop-ups or bundled with something you needed to download. Let's work through it and maybe we can then figure out how they got there.
I've seen similar situations where the owner of the computer would never allow that stuff in, recognizing cautions the OS throws up, but find bad stuff anyway after their brother-in-law or a grandkid was on their computer. Poo happens--lets see if we can scoop it up!
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