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Q: disc repair w/out original startup disc?

hello all,

 

the indication is the disc is in need of repair after i ran verify disc in disc utility.  problem is, i have NO idea where the original startup disc is for this 2007 17" macbook pro.  in fact, the fine folks at the Beijing, China Apple store were kind enough to upgrade the system a couple years ago for free and they didn't use a disc to load Lion onto it since the dvd drive doesn't work.  i think the guy used some sorta usb drive, i don't recall. 

anyway, is there a way to repair this disc, without a disc? 

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Oct 12, 2013 3:50 AM

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  • by nbar,

    nbar nbar Oct 16, 2013 1:09 AM in response to PlotinusVeritas
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    Oct 16, 2013 1:09 AM in response to PlotinusVeritas

    Is the brain (HD) and memories (data) same thing?

    Now that we are incorporating metaphysical distinctions in our diagnosis, what would constitute 'thoughts'?

     

     

    because there IS NO SUCH THING as "too many backups"

    Unless you are backing up existing TM backups. RIP Pondini.

     

    Can I have "dual" backups?   Or back up my Backups?

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Oct 16, 2013 1:23 AM in response to nbar
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    Oct 16, 2013 1:23 AM in response to nbar

    I just like analogies.

     

    To the OP, ... look into getting a HD and the kind people here will help you install it, or you can have Apple do same for you.

  • by macbooktj,

    macbooktj macbooktj Oct 16, 2013 2:27 AM in response to PlotinusVeritas
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    Oct 16, 2013 2:27 AM in response to PlotinusVeritas

    who's pondini?

     

    ok...  will running time machine do anything for me?  isn't my hd backed up to my ext. drive when i use time machine to do a backup?

     

    sorry if these questions are too mundane!!

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Oct 16, 2013 2:40 AM in response to macbooktj
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    Oct 16, 2013 2:40 AM in response to macbooktj

    macbooktj wrote:

     

    who's pondini?

     

    He was the author of the definitive Time Machine web site 'Pondini.Org'.  He recently died.

     

    ok...  will running time machine do anything for me?  isn't my hd backed up to my ext. drive when i use time machine to do a backup?

     

    If Time Machine completed a backup without error, it does constitute a back up of your HDD.

     

    sorry if these questions are too mundane!!

    Your questions are legitimate.  No apologies are necessary.

     

    Ciao

  • by clintonfrombirmingham,

    clintonfrombirmingham clintonfrombirmingham Oct 16, 2013 2:56 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Oct 16, 2013 2:56 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    He recently died.

     

     

    OGELTHORPE,

     

    I wasn't aware of that... need to be hanging out around the WC more I suppose.

     

    Here's hoping that someone will preserve and carry on his work - I don't know how many times I've recommended that folks view one of Mr. Pond's pages.

     

    Clinton

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Oct 16, 2013 3:06 AM in response to clintonfrombirmingham
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    Oct 16, 2013 3:06 AM in response to clintonfrombirmingham

    Clinton, do go to the WC.  There is a discussion. 

     

    Ciao.

  • by macbooktj,

    macbooktj macbooktj Oct 16, 2013 3:25 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Oct 16, 2013 3:25 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    thanks again for the assistance and comments...

     

    so, time machine did successfully complete a backup.  am i right in thinking my laptop hd is now on the ext. drive and can be used to successfully reinstalled back onto the laptop?  why even do that if it's functional from the ext. drive? 

    anyway, i'm unclear what to do next...  please advise.

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Oct 16, 2013 3:34 AM in response to macbooktj
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    Oct 16, 2013 3:34 AM in response to macbooktj

    youll need a replacement HD

     

     

    After getting same, you can come back here and talk about installing same and using Time Machine to restore your entire Time Machine HD contents back onto the new HD.

     

     

     

    You cant use Time machine like an external HD (even though thats what it is mechanically),...

     

    Time Machine is a bundle of files, .....its designed for backup and RESTORING from a crash

     

    .....its not designed to be used AS an external HD clone thats bootable into your desktop screen.

     

     

    Time Machine is kind of like a big spool of wire (data),....but you cant use that "wire" until you can "unspool" it onto a replacement internal HD.

  • by macbooktj,

    macbooktj macbooktj Oct 16, 2013 4:05 AM in response to PlotinusVeritas
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    Oct 16, 2013 4:05 AM in response to PlotinusVeritas

    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!  i think i get it...  sorry, the 2yr. old explanations seem to do me good

     

    so, with a new HD 'on' the computer, everything put onto the external drive will fit back (unspooled) onto the new HD like it's a clean slate, right? 

     

    should i wait until i get back to the usa to do this?  while i could probably 'splain it to the Apple Store guys here in Beijing, i'd rather wait...

     

    rsvp!!!

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Oct 16, 2013 4:51 AM in response to macbooktj
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    Oct 16, 2013 4:51 AM in response to macbooktj

    macbooktj wrote:

     

    so, with a new HD 'on' the computer, everything put onto the external drive will fit back (unspooled) onto the new HD like it's a clean slate, right? 

     

    You will have to install a new HDD in your MBP and install the OS.  Then you can transfer data from the external Time Machine HDD to your MBP.  You may use these directions:

     

    http://pondini.org/OSX/Setup.html

    should i wait until i get back to the usa to do this?  while i could probably 'splain it to the Apple Store guys here in Beijing, i'd rather wait...

     

    That is entirely your decision.

     

    Ciao.

  • by macbooktj,

    macbooktj macbooktj Oct 27, 2013 6:15 PM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Oct 27, 2013 6:15 PM in response to OGELTHORPE

    hi again,

     

    i'm not sure where to poste this but...

    if i'm going to purchase a new HDD, is it a waste of $$ to get it from an Apple retail store?

  • by OGELTHORPE,Helpful

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Oct 28, 2013 2:15 AM in response to macbooktj
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    Oct 28, 2013 2:15 AM in response to macbooktj

    You will find more favorable prices at Amazon, Newegg and the like than the Apple store.  Additional savings will be realized by installing it yourself and eliminating the labor charge.

     

    Ciao.

  • by Triple7777,

    Triple7777 Triple7777 Oct 28, 2013 10:26 AM in response to macbooktj
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    Oct 28, 2013 10:26 AM in response to macbooktj

    Disk utility states I need to start up from OS X disc. I do not have this disk. I also have snow leopard version 10.6.8. So how do I get a copy of this disc to effect repairs? can I download from apple and burn it to a disc?

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Oct 28, 2013 1:14 PM in response to Triple7777
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    Oct 28, 2013 1:14 PM in response to Triple7777

    Duplicate original installation disks can be ordered from Apple Customer Service.  Give them a call and have your MBP serial number ready.  There is a charge.

     

    Ciao.

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