10 Replies Latest reply: Oct 20, 2013 8:52 AM by Old Toad
Hurley625 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have been researching online cloud back up plans for an extensive music and photo/video library.  My IMac is running slow and is just about full and I have it currently backed up to an external through time machine only.  I want to move all of this data (music/photo/vidoes) and change the pathway when saving new photos/music to an external hardrive and having that backed up by an online source, no longer saving this directly to the IMac.   Any suggestions of a good company? I was looking at Open Drive or Crash Plan. 

 

Should I use ICloud? 

 

Your input is greatly appreciated!

 

Chris


iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)
  • 1. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    mende1 Level 10 Level 10 (89,570 points)

    Welcome to Apple Support Communities

     

    iCloud is designed to sync information between iPhones, iPads, iPods touch, Macs and PCs, so you shouldn't use it if you just want to store files in the cloud. Also, note that you can't make backups of your computer on iCloud.

     

    Instead, use CrashPlan. Remember that the best way to make backups of your files is to make backups onto an external drive, so maybe it's a better option to buy a second external drive and put the files there, so you will save storage

  • 2. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Hurley625 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So if I am tracking, get a second external harddrive to back up the first? Then get Crash Plan to back it all up again as a third source?

     

    Would you also agree to move the pathway away from the Imac onto an External when importing new data (music/photos)? 

     

    Thank you.

  • 3. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    mende1 Level 10 Level 10 (89,570 points)

    What I told you is to keep the first external drive to make Time Machine backups, and get a second external drive to put the files you want in order to free up space on the Mac. With this, you don't have to use CrashPlan.

     

    Hurley625 wrote:

     

    Would you also agree to move the pathway away from the Imac onto an External when importing new data (music/photos)?

     

    You only have to import the files you want, so you don't need to move the folders where the data is saved. Note that, after moving your photos and music files, if you have them on iTunes or iPhoto, open them while holding the Option (Alt) key, and point the applications to the external drive

  • 4. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,715 points)

    Just so you know an iPhoto Library can't be backed up to a cloud storage system because they will not maintain the library structure correctly.  You can backup the original photos to a cloud service by exporting the original files out of iPhoto to a folder on the Desktop and uploading those to your cloud service.  But an iPhoto library package will be corrupted if backed up to a cloud service.

     

    Those who have tried not only reported the corruption but the fact that it took days to upload and download.

     

    mende1's advice re Time Machine is what you should consider.

     

    OT

  • 5. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Hurley625 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Mende,

     

    Okay I am attempting to do a two external hard drive back up.

     

    Do you have a post or simple instructions online in doing this?

     

    Again - my goal is to stop saving photos and music to my IMac - save it directly to the first external hard drive then have the second drive back that up.  Then I suppose the first external hard drive would be backing up the rest of the Imac. As it stands now, my IMac cannot save any more information.  How would I properly go about doing this? 

     

    Thank you!

  • 6. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,715 points)

    Again - my goal is to stop saving photos and music to my IMac - save it directly to the first external hard drive then have the second drive back that up.

    Here's how it should be set up:

     

    EHD #1

    1 - format as OS X Extended (journaled) with ownership set to be ignored.

    2 - move your iPhoto and iTunes libraries to this drive.

    3 - Launch iPhoto with the Option key held down, select the library on EHD#1 and open. When you're satisfied that the library is working correctly delete the library from your internal boot drive.

    4 - do the same (#3) with your iTunes library.

     

    EHD#2

    1 - set up this drive  for use with Time Machine according to this Apple Document: Mac Basics: Time Machine

    2 - with both EHDs connected to your Mac launch Time Machine and select EHD2 to be used for backups.

     

    EHD2 will backup both your internal boot drive and EHD1.  So make sure EHD2 is about 2X the size of the internal and EHD1 drives combined.

  • 7. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Hurley625 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Old Toad thank you for your help.

     

    Now forgive the lack of knoweldge in doing this as I need a lil more help:

     

    EHD #1

    1 - format as OS X Extended (journaled) with ownership set to be ignored.

     

       * I already have EHD#1 - how do I know if it is already set to the above?  Where do I go to check or do this?

     

    2 - move your iPhoto and iTunes libraries to this drive.

     

      * Arent these applications already on this drive - or is Step 3 making Step 2 Complete?

  • 8. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,715 points)

    Where do I go to check or do this?

    Click once on the icon for EDH#1 and type Command + i.  This will bring up the info window for the drive with the necessary information.

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    Arent these applications already on this drive - or is Step 3 making Step 2 Complete?

    Those aren't application, those are libraries. You want to move/copy the libraries from where they are currently to the EHD #1 hard drive.  Step 3 just let's iPhoto know where that library is and makes it the default library when the next time iPhoto is launched.

  • 9. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Hurley625 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am not showing an option to click or choose "Ignore Ownership on this Volume"....  What am I missing?

     

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  • 10. Re: Online Back Up - Help!
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,715 points)

    That drive has been or is being used by Time Machine for backups. It would be the same as EHD#2 in my earlier post.  Do you still want to use it for backups?  If not open Time Machine's preferences and unselect the drive. Then you should be able to reformat it and use  it as an general use external HD.