Q: MacBook Pro (2007) 3,1 & 10.8.5 freezing

Hi tj_andersen,  I read your post about overwriting all the kext files from 10.8.5 with those from 10.8.4 and noted that you then have to repair permissions. I know how to do so with individual files but was wondering how you did it with all of the kext files... individually or as a group? Can you repair permissions on an entire folder or did you have to enter commands for each individual file?

Thanks!

Kate

Re: MacBook Pro (2007) 3,1 & 10.8.5 freezing

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Hi tj_andersen,  I read your post about overwriting all the kext files from 10.8.5 with those from 10.8.4 and noted that you then have to repair permissions. I know how to do so with individual files but was wondering how you did it with all of the kext files... individually or as a group? Can you repair permissions on an entire folder or did you have to enter commands for each individual file?

Thanks!

Kate

Hi Kate,

Cannot see your post for some reason, but was notified of it.

Not sure what your exact situation is, but the simplist procedure that worked, for me, was to run a full 10.8.4 installer over top of the non-bootable 10.8.5. It installed and booted, then only afterward did I boot off the Recovery partition, and, repair disk and permissions. Been running okay for a few days now.

Further back in this discussion I figured out which were the problem kexts for my setup.

My procedure, whether correct or not, was to boot off an external drive, substitute in the 10.8.4 kexts, boot into the Recovery partition, repair disk and permissions, boot into the subsituted 10.8.5 in Safe mode, and then finally boot normally.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge could simplify the procedure.

Good luck

Hi Kate.

Just do a Repair Permissions on the entire disk after you adjust the files. You will have to boot from the Recovery Partition to run Disk Utility, of course.

Brad

fyi. I've run the new Combo updater (latest build which includes the supplemental) on my external "Test" system and it's running fine so far, but I will keep my Main Drive at 10.8.4 until I'm sure.

Another data point:

I have 2 MacBookPros.  When I installed the Max OS 10.8.5 update to the older MBP (17 inch, 2.4GHz, MacBookPro3,1), the machine always freezes after rebooting. (I have no problems on my newer MBP).  The freeze happens either at the gray screen, or sometimes it gets as far as the login screen.  When it freezes, the mouse & keyboard no longer respond, and the only solution seems to be to hold down the power key.  I've run through the standard steps of running in Safe Mode, resetting the PRAM, and verifying the disk - all resulting in the same freeze behavior.  Based on this thread, other users are having this same problem. 

For now, I've used Time Machine to restore back to my 10.8.4 environment on that machine.  Although this machine has no problems with 10.8.4, I would like to be able to keep this MBP updated with the latest Mac OS X software (e.g., 10.8.5 and beyond).  Assuming that Apple will resolve this, I'll patiently wait before making the kext file modifications that have been suggested here.  If you haven't done so already, I encourage all victims of this problem to submit a bug report via http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Dan

I have the exact same Macbook Pro with the exact same issue... I even went ahead and tried to load up Mavericks (10.9) with the same exact issue ~ mouse and keyboard frozen.

I think Apple may be spending more time/money with iOS and forgetting that us desktop/laptop users keep them afloat until the .mp3/iPod craze came along. Sorely disappointed. I have more faith in my Windoze computer now (and slowly transfer everything over to it).

What a sad day.

p.s. its not like this is my only Mac... I have a 27" iMac, (2) 20" iMac, eMac, Macbook Pro 15" & 17" ~ and you wouldn't believe what I have in my garage (oldies).

Do not give up.  I also have a 2007 mac book pro, as described in my previous mail. I have been running Maverick Mavericks (10.9) and the system has been up and running two days. I am quite happy. I was not so happy with the various reinstalls of 10.8.5., althoug after several attempts the situation was getting better. Mavering does not seem to freeze. I am also using the Sonnet Express card and external SATA drivers and those also work fine.

With Maverick the system seems to be more responsive, as well. I am happy now.

Have a nice Sunday,  

gbhardy

Anyone with this issue has tried updating with the official Mavericks 10.9 released today?

For me problem remains, freezes in about 10-15 seconds after boot on a clean 10.9 install

I have the same problem but had never updated to 10.8. 17" MacBook Pro 3,1 (Late 2007) upgraded from 10.6.8 Snow Leopard to 10.9 today. Experiencing the same issues as everyone else. Usually hangs during the boot screen but sometimes I can make it to the desktop for at most a couple minutes before everything locks up. The logic board and therefore Nvidia chip was replaced a year or two ago (not sure if we are past ruling that out). But it's definitely a software issue as my system was rock solid on Snow Leopard as of this morning. I can go to Disk Utility on the Recovery partition and it can sit there all day without freezing. Apple needs to get their act together.

ctm1,  are you connected to the network via ethernet or on WiFi?  When I was on 10.8.5, it did not freeze for 3 days while on WiFi, but once I plugged into a network via ethernet cable, that's when the freezes started occuring.  Once they do start occuring, it does not matter whether I am on Airport or ethernet, it would always happen.

Well, right now there is no ethernet cable plugged in and WiFi is off. However I downloaded 10.9 while wired to ethernet and I'm sure I left that in during and after installation. I disconnected it (the only thing plugged in besides power) after I encountered the freeze issues, obviously to no avail.

Ok... I was able to upgrade to 10.8.5 and then 10.9.

I have not plugged in my Ethernet cable and all is well, all day, multiple reboots. Fortunately, I do not have to have Ethernet plugged in any longer (I now run TradeStation off a dedicated Win8 platform)... so I am going to run off WiFi...

Further thought is if everything runs well without the keyboard and mouse freezing (I noticed previously that once it freezes even the caps light will not cycle on-off) I will go ahead and clone it and only then will I give the Ethernet cable another try. If it freezes with the Ethernet cable plugged in then I will unplug it and reverse the cloning process. Hopefully the reversal process will work and allow me to just use the WiFi and sans the Ethernet until a patch is found.

hey guys,

have you tried the kext replacement therapy? for me it totally resolves every problem in 10.8.5, I might give 10.9 a shot at the weekend, and I would do the same procedure with the kext replacement

I had random lockups with 10.8.5 on my MacBookPro3,1. I went back to 10.8.4 then everything was stable again. Then I installed Mavericks 10.9 and the issue came back. Again random lockups. Now I went back to 10.8.4 and my MacBookPro is stable again. Hope Apple will have fix for this issue soon.

I had the freeze once ethernet was connected in both 10.8.5 and 10.9 on my 2007 mbp.

This has been replicated on a lot of trials. The ethernet port seems to be the problem.

I also realise that once it freezes, the mbp runs extremely hot but the fan does not kick in at all.

To resolve, force shutdown using power button. Then let the mbp cool down entirely.

Reset PRAM -  to get rid of warning message for improper shut down after login screen and to force the fan to run max on startup.

Upon next login, only have 20-30 secs to do the following before it freezes again.

1. turn on wifi ( if it is turned on, turn off then on again)

2. Restart!

After restart, it will run perfectly fine on wifi all the time.

Somehow i think recycling the wifi will command the mac to use wifi instead of ethernet on the next startup and prevent the freeze again.

Works 8 out of 10 times now. But the trick is to do it only when the mbp is cooled down.... if it is hot, it will freeze on login screen. At least that is for my mbp.