Currently Being ModeratedOct 20, 2013 7:03 PM (in response to mittense)
I have an LG rev 2. For the moment, I didn't notice any IR. I got mine 1,5 months ago to remplace a deficient one (screen flickering).
My first display was a Samsung. Now, I noticed a difference ; I liked more my samsung colors, specially the whites, but I'm not sure if it's just me.
I stay you inform !
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2013 12:03 PM (in response to LifeReceiver)
Basically the pixels would not respond or act uniformly which causes the IR. The reasons pixels act like that is the problem of non-uniform electric charges across the screen itself ( pixels ) and is probably because of the impurities in manufacturing exceeding some limits.
the case with Retina display is that there are so many pixels in a 15.4" display which causes the impurities be very close to each other, and the ionic electric charge accumalte when a set of pixels are commanded to display a certain colour for a longer time.
the longer the pixels show a certain colour, more charge is accumulated although there is a saturation charge limit.
to conclude, the manufacturing route of displays as well as surrounding elements of manufacturing route plus other manufacturing factors have a great impact on display's quality. I think with some revisions which are of course expensive, LG could also come up with an IR-free display.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2013 2:10 PM (in response to 2B-4G10)
had returned mine last year september and waited for this refresh.. let's see if they fixed the problem. i dont think so though, but my old MBP is from 2008 and i need the upgrade now. cant wait longer.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2013 2:17 PM (in response to mittense)
This is what I am also wondering. It appears to me from everything that I can garner from this keynote that the display has not changed at least publically.
I had placed my order today but cancelled it because of the "tax" I was charged and would resolve that issue first through the University before ordering it.
However, I'm kind of wondering if the Broadwell processor will be out in June and will they update the Pro's again then with that processor and a redesigned machine....ahh the waiting game, I've been playing it since these Retina's came out here but I've been patiently waiting to order a new one but I sure don't want a bad one either.
Can't wait till someone can start giving feedback on these latest ones.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2013 9:29 PM (in response to krnorth)
But broadwell is going to be exclusively for desktops I think, the only thing that might make a difference is if they haven't changed the display then wait for the ruomored IGZO, also also crystalwell -Iris 5200- may prove to be inadequate for 15" starting model...
So I guess I'll tag along with you body in the waiting game till february and see the feedback from the generous members.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2013 6:32 AM (in response to 2B-4G10)
After waiting a year and a half to buy a new MBP because of the image retention problem, I finally ordered one of the new Haswells yesterday. I have been following the thread mostly silently because I didn't own a retina display. But my 2006 17" MBP has a broken hinge and is in two halves now and can't be moved. I ordered the top of the line: 16GB, 1TB, 2.6Hz Quad Core i7. Surprisingly, there is no wait and it will ship in 2 - 4 days, be here in a week. Will report as soon as I get it.
One of the things that make me a little curious is the fact that (most of) the rest of the world outside these forums is oblivious to the retina display problem. I know this has been addressed here before several times. I've played with machines at the Apples store numerous times and showed the retention to "shocked" employees on multiple machines, but the fact that there is no hue and cry from the genaeral population of MBP owners is mystifying.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2013 6:47 AM (in response to flat earth)
flat earth wrote:
I've played with machines at the Apples store numerous times and showed the retention to "shocked" employees on multiple machines,
You've been reproducing image retention on in-store machines? What displays did they have? LG?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2013 10:14 AM (in response to mittense)
I ordered my 13" yesterday with the fast shipping option, right after the store went back online. It's coming in tomorrow. I'll check it with the checkerboard test and post about the results.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2013 4:50 PM (in response to 2B-4G10)
Okay so picked my new rMBP up today at 11am (UK), took 11.5 hours to transfer all my data and guess what?
I can't believe it but I have slight yellow gradient and yes it's a Samsung screen!! Not as bad as my previous model but it's definitely there. Going to take it back tomorrow, demand a new one and before I even take it out the shop, I will open it there and then and check the screen.
Totally unreal. I had 4 displays changed on my mid 2012 model and eventully got a refund, I was totally convinced that Apple would have addressed this issue.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2013 4:54 PM (in response to nicfromnzl)
Yep but it's irrelevant because it's a gradient from left to right. Perfectly white on the right but off white on the left. So no matter what I do with the profiles it makes no difference. I'm so frustrated because I love the machine but I just can't deal with this display and I've literally spent hours and money trying to resolve this, backwards and forwards to the Apple Store like a moron!!
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