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How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • snozdop Level 5 Level 5 (4,820 points)

    I thought you said you'd withdrawn from this discussion and replaced most of your Apple stuff? If you think I'm trolling, why even bother posting such a lengthy post about what you use your phone for. I never asked.

     

    We get it, Mavericks works for you.

     

    Who said I'm using Mavericks? I certainly didn't. Reading comprehensive fail, yet again. Hope you're not this bad at reading and interpreting your pilots logs!

     

    If you don't have anything useful to contribute on how to restore the function in the thread title

     

    It has already been posted numerous times, by numerous people, that there is currently NO WAY to restore USB sync functionality to iTunes in Mavericks. The only option is to stay on Mountain Lion, or downgrade back to it. You have no problem right now anyway, as you've sensibly stuck with Mountain Lion. If there is enough demand for USB sync, no doubt somebody will provide a solution, hopefully before you need to replace your hardware and have an unavoidable upgrade to Mavericks.

     

    Dismissing someone who doesn't need internet connectivity on their phone is remarkably narrow-minded.

     

    It wasn't a dismissal. It was a valid question (not directed at you I might add). You do realise what the "i" in "iPhone" stands for, don't you?

  • snozdop Level 5 Level 5 (4,820 points)

    So, I went to Microsoft Exchange Online and created an exhange account for her.

     

    All you've done is switch one online service for another. An industry standard one to a proprietary one.

     

    It doesn't help those who want to sync locally via USB at all, which is the whole point of this thread.

  • Z001 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Snozdop and winglet

     

    Can you two please fight this out somewhere else. Not really helping the discussion.

  • WiseJD Level 4 Level 4 (1,120 points)

    snozdop wrote:

     

    Who said I'm using Mavericks? I certainly didn't. Reading comprehensive fail, yet again. Hope you're not this bad at reading and interpreting your pilots logs!

     

     

    If you don't have anything useful to contribute on how to restore the function in the thread title

     

     

     

    The title of this thread also says, "...iPhone with OS X Mavericks"  Community Threads with many people posting often ebb and flow to include issues that are related to but not exactly like the OP issue.  I don't know how useful it is to be picking out interests within the thread that are not a concern of yours, and bashing others as a result.

  • winglet Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Couldn't agree with you more Z001. I have no desire to flame with the likes of snozdop/KiltedTim (who sound remarkably alike). As the old saying goes, wrestling with pigs just gets you dirty and the pig likes it. Which is why I tried to respectfully request that if there is nothing useful to be contributed to the topic of the thread, why not move along?

     

    Snozzy, since you seem obsessed with reading comprehension, the title of the thread refers to LOCAL syncing. Not USB syncing. I have never claimed that I believe Apple will bring it back. It's the requirement for internet connectivity that is the sticking point for me, as contrary to popular belief the World Wide Interwebs aren't quite as WorldWide as people think.

     

    More reading comprehension - I also stated in a past post that since the thread seemed to have left the trolling and Apple-bootlicking I was hoping to participate again. My choice. Unfortunately that tone came back pretty quick with the implication that buying a smartphone to use without the internet was like, so dumb.

     

    So, back to possible solutions. If anyone with a technical background could suggest some ideas. I was thinking there could be a third-party solution opportunity for the likes of the makers of Missing Sync to release a small server package incorporating a local CalDav/WebDav server, that would sync offline locally. And then have the option to sync offline changes with iCloud when the internet connection was restored - for those who want it. A nice little slick UI in a pref pane or something.

     

    The only thing is, server solutions are a pretty big target vector for malicious attacks. So having Apple build it into the OS would have been far better. Even as an optional install or something, like X10. OS X Server is pretty overkill.

     

    One can hope.

  • JEH54 Calculating status...

    I know it's not a local sync. I tried everything and my goal was not local sync but getting Outlook to work.

     

    It does allow her to have a local copy of stuff on her macbook when it is not connected to the internet. So, it's not perfect and it still requires an online solution, but she has the stuff she wants.

  • Mac Allan Calculating status...

    Has anyone tried deleting itunes 11 and retinstalling itunes 10.5 to get back the missing sunc functions?

  • Z001 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have not tried that but reading the help documentation of  iTunes it appears that the removal of local sync is more a Mavericks issue than iTunes. This is the notification at the end of the section still talking about syncing calendar and contacts locally in iTunes 11.1.2:

     

    "Note:  These instructions apply only if you use OS X v.10.8.5 or earlier. If you use OS X Mavericks v.10.9 or later, your contacts, calendars, and other info are updated on your computers and iOS devices via iCloud. For more information, see iCloud Help at icloud.com."

     

     

    It seems iTunes 11.1.2 must work fine with earlier version of OSX as well, without loss of local sync (have not tested this though!).

  • The_Patcher Calculating status...

    It's true - I'm using OS X 10.8.5 with iTunes 11.1.2 and local sync works.

    Z001 wrote:

     

    I have not tried that but reading the help documentation of  iTunes it appears that the removal of local sync is more a Mavericks issue than iTunes. This is the notification at the end of the section still talking about syncing calendar and contacts locally in iTunes 11.1.2:

     

    "Note:  These instructions apply only if you use OS X v.10.8.5 or earlier. If you use OS X Mavericks v.10.9 or later, your contacts, calendars, and other info are updated on your computers and iOS devices via iCloud. For more information, see iCloud Help at icloud.com."

     

     

    It seems iTunes 11.1.2 must work fine with earlier version of OSX as well, without loss of local sync (have not tested this though!).

  • WiseJD Level 4 Level 4 (1,120 points)

    After 9-Pages of this Thread, I do think it important that Community Members know that Yes you can connect your iPhone with iOS 7.03 to your Mac with 10 X Mavericks and Sync without fear of breaking your Mac or your iPhone.

     

    Typically, if you have New photos on your Camera Roll your iPhoto will open upon connecting your iPhone to your Mac.  Your New Cameral Roll photos can then be Imported in the normal way.

     

    After closing iPhoto, you can click on iTunes (latest version) and it will open.  At the upper right of your Computer Screen you will see (as normal) a box with "iPhone" written in it.  Click on this Box or Button and you will see your iPhone recognized and connecting, and the Mac iTunes screen will go to the typical iPhone Summary Screen.  Your Status will say that you are on the current iOS release.

     

    At the bottom right of your Mac iTunes Screen you will see the Sync button (as Normal).  Click on Sync and the Sync will begin.  It will proceed through the 8-Steps, ending with a "Waiting for Copying" notice.  At this point because of what you have read on many recent Posts you will probably worry that this will never end and your iPhone will be hosed ...but have no fear after additional items are copied you will see perhaps one more "Waiting for Copying" and then the Sync will complete successfully.  If iCloud was accessed to accomplish this you will not notice such a routing. 

     

    This experience may differ depending on what items you have selected for your Sync, but your iPhone and your Mac will be fine.

  • RobertCailliau Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I should have said "my Samsung", not "my iPhone", though I have both, and the error was irrelevant.

    My iPhone lies useless: it's a device that is to me totally unproductive. My Samsung is little better.

    But it's not your point.

    I started in 1993 with a Psion 3A as PDA (personal digital assistant, as they were then called).  I used it, and its successor Psion models, as a pocket machine: agenda, memos, data bases, texts, contacts.  It was extremely effective and served me well.  The last model had a single button to take instant voice memos.

    In 2004 I was "forced" by the ill health of my parents to have a mobile phone (functionality which I hate) and got a Treo 650.  That was less good than the Psions, but it worked. We know what then happened to Palm.  Someone gave me an iPhone.  On that device (1) I had to tap about 4 times more than press buttons on the Palm to achieve the same results, and (2) made far more mistakes because of the finger-paint interface. The only reasonable thing it did for me was to carry the TomTom GPS for Europe, and some music.

    I now have a Samsung Galaxy GT N7000, at least it has a stylus and a bigger screen and I can easily write the software I miss.

    I find it irritating that I need to sync via WiFi, when that could much better be done with a USB cable.

    But such is the influence of fashion.

  • snozdop Level 5 Level 5 (4,820 points)

    the title of the thread refers to LOCAL syncing. Not USB syncing.

     

    What is that white cable you connect your iPhone to your computer with? Yes, it is a USB cable that enables you to do LOCAL syncing. A local Wifi sync (although a possibility) is not suitable for everyone (including yourself in hotels with one device wifi policies) so syncing via USB is the only realistic local sync option. You also made some sarcastic comment about the inelegance of setting up an ad-hoc wireless network compared to using a USB cable. So, to all intents and purposes, USB sync = local sync.

     

    I have never claimed that I believe Apple will bring it back.

     

    I never claimed you did, but clearly that would be the best solution for all involved. A first-party, tried-and-tested solution we all know works, are happy with and we'd know would remain compatible. Perhaps, if enough people complain, Apple maybe persuaded to bring it back. They listened to customers on the iOS 7 interface motion sickness some people were suffering from.

     

    As far as possible technical solutions goes, only iTunes is officially 'authorised' to communicate directly with an iOS device over USB. There are Mac and Windows applications that can do limited communication (such as eCamms PhoneView) but these communicate using unofficial means and need updating everytime an iOS update is released. Apple could block such communications entirely if they decided to.

     

    Syncing via direct local WiFi connection is certainly a possibility. Plenty of existing apps have this functionality, although it is not as straightforward as just plugging in a cable, and requires an existing WiFi network for both iPhone and computer to be connected to. This requirement alone would make it unsuitable for many people, and setting up an ad-hoc wifi network everytime they want to sync is beyond the technical abilities of many.

     

    I'm not aware of any other local sync options. Bluetooth is a non-starter as that is locked down to only a few functions in iOS and data transfer is not one of them.

  • Z001 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    WiseJD

     

    I can agree with what you are saying as far as photos, etc. syncing fine and iPhone not wiped. Are you saying you also found the cure of being able to locally syncing EVERYTHING we used to in the pre-Mavericks era? Don't quite get your point in relation to the original issue relating to calendars and contacts.

  • snozdop Level 5 Level 5 (4,820 points)

    it appears that the removal of local sync is more a Mavericks issue than iTunes.

     

    Correct. As I've previously explained in this thread, SyncServices (the OS X framework that allowed local and inter-app syncing) has been deprecated in OS X since 10.7 Lion and has been totally removed in 10.9 Mavericks. That's why it no longer works with the same version of iTunes running in Mavericks.

  • Z001 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    snozdrop

     

     

    Syncing via direct local WiFi connection is certainly a possibility. Plenty of existing apps have this functionality, although it is not as straightforward as just plugging in a cable, and requires an existing WiFi network for both iPhone and computer to be connected to.

    While the above may not necessarily address winglet's problem it may be very relevant for the rest of us who may be satisfied by syncing via wifi on local (home) network. Do you know apps that sync native IOS and OSX calendars? Woudl appreciate if you could recommend some. Thanks

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