Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

Good question, Z001, I am not saying I have found any "cure", but I do have a concern that all Community Members may not be encumbered by the definition of words like "Locally" and may be reading this Thread thinking that they cannot do a normal Sync using their iPhone with iOS 7.03, their Apple Charging / USB Cable, and their Mac with OS X Mavericks.  The only reason for my post is to offset the possible concern that a typical Sync in your Home the way they have always done it does in-fact work.  Specific iPhone Content and Apps that actually Sync may or may-not work due to their own selections and by changes that Apple introduces ...but I really don't want some folks to be afraid to Sync the way they always have.

Yes, me too. 11.1.2 in Mountain Lion retains the Info tab and still allows USB sync of calendars and contacts. To reiterate, it's all well and good if people want to argue in here, but PLEASE submit feedback to apple.com/feedback. By the way, I did a full restore back to 10.8.5 from a Time Machine backup, and I won't upgrade to Mavericks until Apple adds USB contacts/calendars sync ability back.

snozdop wrote:

 

 

the title of the thread refers to LOCAL syncing. Not USB syncing.

 

 

What is that white cable you connect your iPhone to your computer with? Yes, it is a USB cable that enables you to do LOCAL syncing. A local Wifi sync (although a possibility) is not suitable for everyone (including yourself in hotels with one device wifi policies) so syncing via USB is the only realistic local sync option. You also made some sarcastic comment about the inelegance of setting up an ad-hoc wireless network compared to using a USB cable. So, to all intents and purposes, USB sync = local sync.

It doesn't change the title or the point of the thread: LOCAL SYNCING! (Comprehension check.) And no, local syncing does not = USB sync, no matter how hard you spin it. I use a bunch of apps (LogTen Pro, Goodreader) that I always sync via wi-fi (locally). I can sync the whole iPhone and iPad via wi-fi if I want. And I'd be perfectly satisfied if local syncing remained in Mavericks over wi-fi with Calendar and Contacts (while they're at it, bring it back for Notes FFS!) Ad-hoc or not, at least SOMETHING would work. I'll take inelegant over non-existent. Besides who says you'd necessarily have to set up an ad-hoc network? You can still have a non-internet connected network! The sarcasm was expressing how regressive the whole move is. Geezuz why is that so hard for you to understand? You seem bound and determined to argue semantics for some reason. A function that is important to me and many others, when outside the range of the blessed Internet, is gone in Mavericks. Full stop.

I've made it more than clear that my problem is lack of consistent internet connectivity. That fact renders cloud syncing impossible for me at many points. The whole privacy/lack of data control is a massive issue, but it is a separate one.

Keymusic88,

How did the restore go? Any issues, complications? I am still toying with the idea, although I have to say I like all other aspects of Mavericks other than the sync. It seems to have made my 2010 Macbook Air a lot faster. ....I am just back in the stone age as far as calendar management concerned: running two separate calendars like in the good old age of filofaxes and rolodexes....

Wow, this has been one of the longest, if not the longest thread on any topic that I have been involved with.

After spending much of the day yesterday trying to find out more about the OS X Server option as it relates to syncing, here is what I believe I understand about the Mavericks - local - (USB) syncing of calendars and contacts using iTunes.

1. Not possible with Mavericks.

2. It is still possible with OS X 10.8.5 and iTunes 11.1.2.

3. One can install OS X Server and restore local control and syncing of calendars and contacts, over WiFi, but not USB.

4. It seems that I can repalce my iDevices with new devices that run iOS 7.x and still use them with 10.8.5 and iTunes 11.1.2 and retain the use of local (USB) syncing.

5. If I want to retain my local syncing I cannot replace my iMac with a new iMac because by the time I am in the position to repalce my iMac they will come with Mavericks installed.

The above is what I believe we have discovered in this thread.

Also, I did write to Apple to express my concerns about my situation (wanting to retain sole local control, storage and backup  of my calendar and contacts).  Someone remarked that that is the only way to get things changed, I hope more of you will write well thought out, comments to Apple expressing your concerns about your situation, (not threats) about the current situation with Mavericks and Local (USB) syncing.

I do have a question for those of you who installed Server.

If the only reason I want Server is for syncing of calendars and contacts can I just run server when I want to sync?

If for some reason Server must run continously (not a problem) does it run as an App just like any other App? 

If so, could I stil run iTunes 24/7 as my music and video host?

Thanks,

Andy

Thanks for your answer.

I've rebuilt my calendars from a back-up sarting my mac in safe mode.

My problem still there : I can't sync with Icloud, there's every time a crash so the Icloud option to sync my datas is not an option for me.

If Apple doesn't allow again the local sync I'm done.

And no, local syncing does not = USB sync, no matter how hard you spin it.

Geez... did you leave your brain 30,000 feet up today?

Local sync means syncing the data stored locally on your computer (not stored on a server) directly with your device, over a local communication method, without going via the internet. That local communication method potentially could be Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or USB. All three methods = local sync, of which USB is only one that is virtually foolproof and can be used universally.

Goodreader, and other "local sync" apps, require a local WiFi network, whether that be an existing router created network, an ad hoc network, or a computer-to-computer network. All of which require some setup that not everyone may have access to do, or the technical ability to do.

The creator of this thread and person who wrote the title, specifically stated they want:

local sync (via cable or WLAN)

So, whilst local sync does not = USB to you, it certainly does to the OP and other people here. To re-use a comment you made earlier: "... you're not everyone."

Z001,

I first tried the restore over the air from my Time Capsule. Since I have just under 300 gb, it was going to take about 13 hours. After about a quarter of the way through, it stopped with an error saying it couldn't restore some of the files. So I restarted the restore with an Ethernet cable connecting the TC with my MBP. That ended up working and took about 5 hours. Everything was there just as it was at the time of the backup. The only unexpected thing was that it had to repopulate my mail into the Apple Mail app. On my computer, all my mail is local since I use pop 3 so I'm not sure what it was doing (it wasn't getting it from any servers) but after it was done, all my mail was there. I have over 48,000 emails from the last 20 years so it took a little while for all the email to be restored. After that, I chose to Rebuild all the mailboxes (from the Mailbox menu) just incase. Everything is working great now, and I'm running iTunes 11.1.2 with no problem doing the USB sync of all the data.

Many thanks, Keymusic88. One question. Did Time Machine continue backing up while you were running Mavericks, i.e. did you have to chose a specific backup date from which you restored the machine or were your TM backups comepletely clear of any Maverickie influence?

Yes, in the few hours that I was running Mavericks, TM had made one backup. So when I went to restore, I needed to select the backup just prior to the Mavericks backup. In the list of possible restores, besides the date, TM tells you what system number that restore is, so you really can't make a mistake. After I was running Mtn Lion again, the one Mavericks backup was still in the list of backups, but that didn't affect anything in running Mtn Lion again.

Do you know apps that sync native IOS and OSX calendars?

I'm not aware of any I'm afraid. As far as I know, the sandboxed nature of iOS prevents third-party apps from reading and writing locally stored contacts and calendars. All of the calendar apps I've seen and used work with server based calendars such as iCloud, Google Sync, CalDAV and Exchange.

Cher Apple, tu nous as "offert" un des plus beau système informatique qui soit mélangeant la maîtrise du hardware et software et en y ajoutant :

       - la stabilité ,

             - L'élégance ,

                    La confiance...

J'avais enfin le couple parfait , Mac sous Snow Léopard , iPhone xx...

Depuis quelques temps, tu pousses les curseurs de la stabilité et de là confiance vers le bas et pire, tu commence à dénigrer tes clients les plus fidèles , à bafouer les valeurs qui ont construit Apple .

Quand on achète un ordinateur, on fait le choix d'effectuer un travail personnel avec, pour y stocker des données, pour se créer un petit coin privé numérique .

Quand on achète un Mac, quand on achète CHER un Mac, c'est pour avoir la tranquillité d'esprit d'un système sécurisé, fiable avec un logiciel créer par une entreprise qui prônait les libertés individuelles , qui se souciait de l'expérience utilisateur , qu'il ait le choix de ses données , car bien gardées et sécurisées en local avec Time capsule.....

Aujourd'hui vous allez trop loin !

C'est quoi la prochaine étape ? Supprimer le Mac ???

Cher Apple, moi qui t'es aimée, chérie, encouragée depuis tant d'années , tu me tourne le dos , pour qui ? Le grand public ? La génération Facebook/NSA 3.0 ???

Ce sont là les valeurs qui te restent ? Avec ton histoire ?

Regarde ce qu'es devenue la plus grande entreprise de téléphone du monde, en 5 ans décimée...(et plein d'autres acteurs historiques...)

Tu veux aujourd'hui imposé la sauvegarde de données sensibles dans un nuage que tu ne maitrise même pas !!!!!

Microsoft à écouté ses clients pour sa XboxOne et paye pourtant encore cette erreur fatale, car certains ne reviendrons pas...

Il est encore temps de faire machine arrière ,

Il est encore temps de reprendre tes esprits .

Peut être est il temps de te remettre en question .

Ton Maître n'est plus là aujourd'hui , et loin de moi l'insolence de parler à sa place, mais il n'a pas commis d'erreur depuis qu'il était revenu en 1997....

Aujourd'hui tu voles de tes propres ailes, mais sur un décollage qui ne t'appartient pas... Attention au crash...

Apple, please restore locally sync functionality (USB and WiFi) to iTunes in Mavericks !

I want to be able to choose how to synchronize my iDevice.

snozdop wrote:

 

The creator of this thread and person who wrote the title, specifically stated they want:

local sync (via cable or WLAN)

Here's the actual OP post in its entirety:

Gerrit7

Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

Here's another quote:

snozdop wrote:

 

So, to all intents and purposes, USB sync = local sync.

You seem a bit confused. Perhaps it's the contradictory, false statements that give that impression...?

If you're going to quote the OP, it pays to remember that we can all actually SEE what he posted. They did NOT specifically state via cable or WLAN, that's just your editorializing. The point is that I think we'd all like some form of local syncing, by any method. If you don't have internet, and are running Mavericks, you won't be able to keep your calendars and contacts in sync. Perhaps we could agree on that. Apparently this is Apple's idea of progress.

Oh, and 30,000 feet is a little low for a B777, the only time we fly that low is the first several hours of a 16 hour flight until the fuel burn makes us light enough to get higher. 35,000 - 39,000 feet is more the norm. Except over China where they use metres. But I digress.

The real question is how does one prevent the forum updates from coming to your email? I've already switched all my forum prefs to not send emails for post updates but they keep coming. This horse has officially been beaten to death and it gets boring arguing with a pedant. There's only so many ways to try and explain light to a blind person.

Good luck to all, hope you find a solution that works for your own specific situation.

winglet wrote:

 

snozdop wrote:

 

The creator of this thread and person who wrote the title, specifically stated they want:

local sync (via cable or WLAN

 

 

That is a direct quote from the Original Poster's second post. In this forum, OP is generally used to refer to the person who started the thread, not the first post in the thread.