John Dorsey

Q: Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

I am old and set in my ways.  I like having the Finder open a new window when I double click a folder.  Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.

 

In Mavericks however there does not seem to be a way to default to, "double click opens new Finder window".  My choices under Finder preferences are, open in the same window; or open in a tab.  I don't care for either.

 

Does anyone know of a way to restore the traditional Finder behavior in Mavericks?  Thanks in advance.

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9), 18 GB RAM

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 5:54 PM

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  • by tchaga,

    tchaga tchaga Oct 25, 2013 8:48 AM in response to Sheezor
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    Oct 25, 2013 8:48 AM in response to Sheezor

    This is the next major negative UI change for me after the removal of scroll arrows in windows. I used to say to Windows folks that I can manage 3 times more work done on Mac OS than on Windows.

    Not anymore.

  • by Peter Hillman,

    Peter Hillman Peter Hillman Oct 25, 2013 10:03 AM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 10:03 AM in response to John Dorsey

    I thought I was having a problem with the Finder after upgrading, but it looks like they failed to mention during the keynote presentations that they were holding down the COMMAND key to demonstrate folders opening with new tabs.  So regardless of the checkbox setting, you have to hold down the command key to open new windows in tabs, or to open a new window while keeping the prior window open.  Unbelievably stupid.

  • by John Dorsey,

    John Dorsey John Dorsey Oct 25, 2013 10:11 AM in response to Peter Hillman
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    Oct 25, 2013 10:11 AM in response to Peter Hillman

    Hah, right - after telling us for 20 years that two mouse buttons would be too confusing, they've decided we should have to use two hands to open a folder window!

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Oct 25, 2013 10:24 AM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 10:24 AM in response to John Dorsey

    I have to admit thats pretty funny

     

     

    I would hope in the very near future a patch is written for this missing point.

     

     

    untill then I'll keep my two-handed ninjitsu  CMD + double-click going

     

     

    what about a piece of tape to hold down the CMD key all the time so you'd only have to double click.  (just kidding).

  • by Mike Evangelist1,

    Mike Evangelist1 Mike Evangelist1 Oct 25, 2013 11:35 AM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 11:35 AM in response to John Dorsey

    Inexcusably stupid (or presumptuous) for Apple to remove this long-standing Finder behaviour.

  • by Steve Pony,

    Steve Pony Steve Pony Oct 25, 2013 1:02 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 1:02 PM in response to John Dorsey

    Oh Apple, I LOVE YOU, I love you, I love you!!!

     

    I just posted the opposite today which had been CENSORED by Apple. My post had been deleted. So hopefully an entry in favour of dear Apple won't be deleted.

     

    I also complained about this at Apple's feedback already and it is ridiculous! But as I said already to avoid one more deleted post: I love you Apple, nevertheless!!!

     

    Best regards,

    Stefan

  • by iHedley,

    iHedley iHedley Oct 25, 2013 1:52 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 1:52 PM in response to John Dorsey

    Glad I came on the forum. Thought I was missing something. I sent Apple  feedback on this and urge everyone else to do the same. The double click, new window thing will be a deal breaker for me !

  • by Hope108,

    Hope108 Hope108 Oct 25, 2013 3:37 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 3:37 PM in response to John Dorsey

    Hi...maybe someone has said it already, but here is what I find on the iMac 2011:

     

    (Mavericks-checked in finder preference - general:) "Open folders in tabs instead of new window"

     

    if a folder is on the desktop and I open them, they all open individually - separate windows.

    When I have a window open already, then command click on any folder in that window, it opens as a tab, in that same window.

     

    When I first tried Mavericks, it seemed all the windows always opened in one window, tabbed. So this is a change.

  • by Hope108,

    Hope108 Hope108 Oct 25, 2013 3:44 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 3:44 PM in response to John Dorsey

    John Dorsey wrote:

     

    Just a reminder that Apple doesn't read these message boards - if you want them to take notice, be sure to submit your comments and concerns to http://www.apple.com/feedback/ !

    dont see where to write them on this page.

  • by Hope108,

    Hope108 Hope108 Oct 25, 2013 3:48 PM in response to Mathaetaes
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    Oct 25, 2013 3:48 PM in response to Mathaetaes

    Mathaetaes wrote:

     

     

    A temporary solution is that you can drag-and-drop files into tabs, which I actually find quite convenient.

    Not seeing any way to do this on my imac....no drag and drop into tabs, from already open windows, into already open windows.

  • by Hope108,

    Hope108 Hope108 Oct 25, 2013 4:18 PM in response to Evil Hacker
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    Oct 25, 2013 4:18 PM in response to Evil Hacker

    Evil Hacker wrote:

    I really miss the original Finder behavior which was:

    - double-click opens folder in a new window

    - option-double-click opens folder in a new window and closes previous window

    And, the window position, size, and view was never changed.

    Hi

    This is what mine is doing even in ....'open folders in tabs...' checked

    any folder on my desktop, that I dbl clk and open:, size, position and view, all remain the same when closed then reopened.

     

    in case useful....

  • by Hope108,

    Hope108 Hope108 Oct 25, 2013 7:33 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 25, 2013 7:33 PM in response to John Dorsey

    John Dorsey wrote:

     

    In the "making lemonade out of lemons" department, I am finding it useful to take two or three windows that I had previously set up with similar display characteristics, like downloads & documents (list view, tall window, sorted by mod date) and putting them all together in a tabbed set rather than aligning them in a kind of offset overlap.  I think that'll be useful.

     

    I don't know what happens if, after carefully setting up this window, I make the mistake of closing it.  I too am learning that the new Finder doesn't always keep track of window characteristics.

    hi

    what happens, at least for me, is if before making them in a tabbed scenario, you make them, as you said, in an offset overlap, then once establishing that postion etc, then put them all into one window. close them, then when they all re open, they will be in the original offset overlap, not in the tabbed window....in the same place, but not in a tabbed fashion.

  • by Thrust,

    Thrust Thrust Oct 26, 2013 11:30 AM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 26, 2013 11:30 AM in response to John Dorsey

    I can't believe that they make it so that finder windows are like your browser, with tabs and only one window and all that... and then they don't even allow the two finger swipe gesture to go backwards in that window. That just makes me think even more that this was not well thought out, maybe the OS X team needs new leadership or something.

  • by Tedwardius,

    Tedwardius Tedwardius Oct 26, 2013 1:36 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 26, 2013 1:36 PM in response to John Dorsey

    Actually, this started with Lion.  I started noticing that external hard drives were automatically resorting based on file name.

     

    Dear apple:

    Have we forgotten why the GOS and now the GUI is used in the first place?  Brain Speed.  It takes the human brain about 1000 times less power and time to recognize a person's face than it does to read their name tag.  Icons are faster to read than test, and some people (most, i'd bet) make use of this in an expanded format.  The size and shape of a window can tell you which one it is much faster than reading the top line.  One of the biggest jumps in productivity was being able to use these faster recognition parts of the brain to make reliable "images" out of window size/shape and icon placement combinations.

     

    Next, IOS7 cme out will "all new" icons.  Why?  Again, those icons were intended to speed things up and suddenly you're taking them all away?  Never mind if they look bad or not, forcing a mass change like that reduces productivity by once again, forcing text processing at every step.

     

    Now this. 

    *sigh*

     

    Fine, add tabbing, but not at the cost of losing this fast-processing capability.  and don't force us to change the entire way we work.  Because if we have to do THAT, maybe we'll change more things too, like which OS maker to choose.

  • by Maxmalus,

    Maxmalus Maxmalus Oct 26, 2013 2:22 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Oct 26, 2013 2:22 PM in response to John Dorsey

    I need open the folders in new windows too, taps are not a option to my work.

     

    Apple, we need it again please.

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