jlhopes22

Q: QuickTime no longer plays certain MP4 and MOV files

After upgrading from 10.6 Snow Leopard to 10.9 Mavericks, I've noticed that all the MP4 files taken with my Samsung smartphone no longer play in QuickTime (or with Quick Look), whereas they played just fine in Snow Leopard. The MP4 files use the H.264 codec. Some other MP4s I have, which use the same codec, will play in QuickTime and Quick Look. I've also found some older MOV files (using the SVQ-3 codec) that don't play now.

 

Has anyone else encountered this? Is there any fix, or does it perhaps require an OS update? Since I skipped OS 10.7 and 10.8, I don't know what the situation was there.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2010), OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 24, 2013 11:59 AM

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  • by mjaynes,

    mjaynes mjaynes Oct 28, 2013 1:24 PM in response to jlhopes22
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    Oct 28, 2013 1:24 PM in response to jlhopes22

    I too can no longer play mp4 video files - mine were generated with compressor wheras ProRes422 was the source.  QuickView shows a zero k file, get info shows the proper size, QuickTime X wants to convert it to mov, QuickTime 7 Pro plays fine, the same with VLC.  They were are all good prior to Mavericks.

     

    MacBook Pro Retina Display.

  • by jlhopes22,

    jlhopes22 jlhopes22 Oct 28, 2013 3:28 PM in response to mjaynes
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    Oct 28, 2013 3:28 PM in response to mjaynes

    That is the same problem I am having. Good to know I'm not alone. Hopefully it will get fixed, as I can't see any reason why Quicktime shouldn't play those files.

  • by James Williams2,

    James Williams2 James Williams2 Oct 31, 2013 12:06 PM in response to mjaynes
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    Oct 31, 2013 12:06 PM in response to mjaynes

    Me too.  iTunes doesn't play my older mov H264 files and QT wants to 'convert' them, which is a pain.  QT also wants to 'convert' my .wmv files.  That process takes quite a long time and is frustrating when you're showing a movie clip to a business audience.

     

    I've had to use VLC for almost ANY video file I have...thank god someone has their heads in the game and their ears open.

     

    I too find that my older Quicktime 7 Pro will still play the files without issue...no conversion at all.

     

    Odd that this is 'progress.'  I can understand the need to advance the software compression with time but to remove prior functionality from a native video player that is affecting iTunes which is a big money maker for Apple confuses me.

  • by mjaynes,

    mjaynes mjaynes Nov 3, 2013 7:51 AM in response to jlhopes22
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    Nov 3, 2013 7:51 AM in response to jlhopes22

    I have found that if I uncheck 'Streaming hints enabled' in Compressor my (newly created) .mp4 files will open in both QuickLook and QuickTime X.  This does nothing for existing files, I know — but maybe a clue to the problem and hopeful solution.

  • by James Williams2,

    James Williams2 James Williams2 Nov 3, 2013 3:17 PM in response to mjaynes
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    Nov 3, 2013 3:17 PM in response to mjaynes

    Where is the Streaming hints enabled checkbox?  And is compressor a seperate ap or just part of QTX?

  • by mjaynes,

    mjaynes mjaynes Nov 4, 2013 11:42 AM in response to James Williams2
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    Nov 4, 2013 11:42 AM in response to James Williams2

    Sorry James, I may have added confusion.  Compressor is a separate (Apple) application used to compress video into a variety of formats, sizes, bit rates, etc.  In my case, I am creating and editing videos in Final Cut Pro and sending them to Compressor for output.  Compressor gives more options over the standard export options in Final Cut Pro - and it works in the background.

     

    If I use the settings I always have, QuickView no longer works with those files, nor will QuickTime open them without converting to .mov.  Now, if I disable 'streaming hints' in Compressor - using my otherwise same settings -the files work with both QuickView and QuickTime X, as they did pre-Mavericks.
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  • by James Williams2,

    James Williams2 James Williams2 Nov 4, 2013 6:37 PM in response to mjaynes
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    Nov 4, 2013 6:37 PM in response to mjaynes

    Aha!  Thanks for the clarification.  I don't use Final Cut Pro but if I ever do...LOL. 

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 4, 2013 6:56 PM in response to mjaynes
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    Nov 4, 2013 6:56 PM in response to mjaynes

    I belive Quicktime has removed the ability to use third party codecs as mentiond in other threads.

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5515994?tstart=60

     

    It is why Quicklook or Finder doesn't generate previews for wmv's etc. It will only work with a specific set of codecs. in the past you could install Perian, or Flip4Mac to add extra support to the codecs across the system.

     

    VLC is the easiest way to play most files, try that.

    https://videolan.org/

     

    As ever, if it bothers you leave feedback

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 4, 2013 7:55 PM in response to Drew Reece
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    Nov 4, 2013 7:55 PM in response to Drew Reece

    You may have better luck in the Quicktime threads.

    https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/quicktime

     

    This post by martbr explains the situation well…

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/23530041#23530041

     

    Try Quicktime player 7 (it's better if you have a QTPro 7 code)

    http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923

    It seems to support everything that it did before Mavericks (including Flip4Mac & Perian codecs), what is different is that the OS uses AVFoundation not Quicktime, the former doesn't support additional codecs therefore there is little hope of getting Finder previews for files with unsupported codecs.

  • by Block Rocker,

    Block Rocker Block Rocker Nov 4, 2013 11:45 PM in response to mjaynes
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    Nov 4, 2013 11:45 PM in response to mjaynes

    Hint tracks were the culprit for me, too.

    To remove hint tracks from existing files you can use the excellent "Subler" MP4 muxer/editor (OS/free).

    Just delete the hint track(s) in the list, save, voila.

    https://code.google.com/p/subler/

  • by mjaynes,

    mjaynes mjaynes Nov 5, 2013 7:58 AM in response to Drew Reece
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    Nov 5, 2013 7:58 AM in response to Drew Reece

    Thanks for the links, Drew, there's a lot of good discussion there.  I can understand why some video files are having trouble (wmv, divx) - but my files are using the H264 codec, very much an Apple standard.

  • by mjaynes,

    mjaynes mjaynes Nov 5, 2013 7:59 AM in response to Block Rocker
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    Nov 5, 2013 7:59 AM in response to Block Rocker

    Subler did it!  Subler fixes my existing videos.  Thank you, Block Rocker!

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 5, 2013 8:48 AM in response to mjaynes
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    Nov 5, 2013 8:48 AM in response to mjaynes

    H264 isn't the only factor.

     

    There are several H264 'profiles' and other minor variations that means files won't play when you think they should. Throw in audio codecs & you have a mine field for compatibility.

  • by jlhopes22,

    jlhopes22 jlhopes22 Nov 5, 2013 10:04 AM in response to Drew Reece
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    Nov 5, 2013 10:04 AM in response to Drew Reece

    But the H.264 videos I have (generated by my Samsung smartphone) worked in fine in QuickTime X under Snow Leopard. It seems to me they should still play in Mavericks.

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