6 Replies Latest reply: Oct 30, 2013 7:37 AM by windmauri
windmauri Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

what is the correct charging methodology to achieve the best long-life batteries usage? (both for iPhone and MAC book PRO)


MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013)
  • 1. Re: long-life batteries usage (both for iPhone and MAC book PRO)
    Barry Hemphill Level 7 Level 7 (34,500 points)

    Please amplify your question.  As far as I know, there is no "correct charging methodology."

     

    Barry

  • 2. Re: long-life batteries usage (both for iPhone and MAC book PRO)
    windmauri Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i mean one ore more of the followings or new different procedures:

    - let the battery to complete its residual charge before starting new recharge

    - don't plug your device before it is almost completely discharge

    - remeber to unplug your device as soon as it is completely full charged

    - other...

     

    thanks for your reply

    maurizio

  • 3. Re: long-life batteries usage (both for iPhone and MAC book PRO)
    Barry Hemphill Level 7 Level 7 (34,500 points)

    As far as I know, any of the above will be OK.

     

    I usually plug in and charge overnight.  As far as I know, there is no risk to leaving a fully charged device plugged in.

     

    I do not think that letting a device completely discharged or plugging it in whenever you want makes any difference. 

     

    The batteries are li-on, so there is no memory problem....as I understand it.

     

    Barry

  • 4. Re: long-life batteries usage (both for iPhone and MAC book PRO)
    windmauri Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ok, tks barry!

  • 5. Re: long-life batteries usage (both for iPhone and MAC book PRO)
    PlotinusVeritas Level 6 Level 6 (14,610 points)

    As per the macbook Pro:

     

    Keep it plugged in when near a socket so you keep the charging cycles DOWN on your LiPo (lithium polymer) cells / battery.

     

    *Contrary to some myths out there, there is protection circuitry in your macbook and therefore you cannot 'overcharge' it when plugged in and already fully charged


    If you leave your macbook plugged in all the time, take it off charge and drain the battery down to 15 or 20% every couple of weeks or so.

     

    LiPo (lithium polymer, same as in your macbook) batteries do not need conditioning. However...

     

    LiPo batteries do NOT like to be dropped down to 15% or so often,....key word being "often"

     

    A lot of battery experts call the use of LiPo cells the "80% Rule" ....meaning use 80% of the charge or so,.. then recharge them for longer overall life.

     

    Never let your Macbook die from power, you can corrupt files that way, and the batteries do not like it.

    **Also new evidence suggests that sudden loss of power can adversely affect data on a SSD (solid state drive).....again, dont let it ever shut down from total power loss

     

     

     

     

    The only quantified abuse seen to LiPo cells is instances when  often the cells are repeatedly drained very low.

     

    Contrary to what some might say, LIPo batteries have an "ideal" break in period. First ten cycles or so, don't discharge down past 40% of the battery's capacity.

     

    Same way you dont take a new car out and speed and rev the engine hard first 100 or so miles.

     

     

     

    *Also, if youre going to store your macbook away for a few weeks or more,... make sure it has at least a 50% or so charge.

     

    *Cycle count / use/ lifespan is one thing that cant be countered.

     

     

     

    Proper treatment is another thing. Just because LiPo batteries dont need conditioning in general,.. does NOT mean they dont have an ideal use / recharge environment. Anything can be abused even if it doesnt need conditioning.

     

    Just use and enjoy your new macbook, 

     

    From Apple on batteries:

    http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1446

     

    but really all you would keep in mind is --"consider 20% is the same as 0% and recharge it"

     

    and best "tip" is if its near a socket, .....plug it in as long as you can (especially at home) since cycle count on the battery are the "miles that wear out the tires (battery)"

  • 6. Re: long-life batteries usage (both for iPhone and MAC book PRO)
    windmauri Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    tks PlotinusVeritas

     

    clear, exhaustive and verifiable