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Nov 1, 2013 2:45 AM in response to Barney-15Eby Laralyn10,Barney-15E wrote:
If you're colorblind, that's pretty much how it works.
I seem to remember someone on one of these support discussions about labels/tags (can't seem to find it) saying that he preferred the old labels because he's colourblind and it made it easier to identify the colour. People with colourblindess don't just see all grey, they mostly still see most colours and just have a bit of difficulty differentiating between certain colours. And they can definitely see the shade of a colour, too. So yeah, the dots make it harder for the colourblind.
HEY! maybe Apple could hide the "bring back labels" feature as an accesibility feature
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Nov 1, 2013 3:53 AM in response to Madashelluphereby Bhobina,Loosing a full color text on folder or filename, I loose all I need from TAG/Label.
I use this feature to make in grphical evidence some files, and now with a ultra small coloured dot, i can't find anymore what I search on my folders...
I don't know why changed this logic without a switch to choose mode to come back function.
Also there are a way to make all happy. If only one TAG was selected, you make the coloured lable as old ML style label color mode, If multiple tag was selected, you can put the little coloured dots as actual style TAG.
Also with a preferece selection you can switch to full actual TAG modality and new one, with single TAG full coloured like ML label.
Easy, perfect, and all are happy !!!.
Bye
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Nov 1, 2013 4:25 AM in response to Laralyn10by Jumberbunch,Well looks like "Path Finder 6 by Cocoatech" (google it) gives you all the old funtionality and more.
Might be a good workaround for you guys who rely heavily on a labeling system rather than a tag one until there's an official change or not.
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Nov 1, 2013 10:38 AM in response to Laralyn10by nigmia,Laralyn, it was Jason Snell at Macworld. He said: "As a somewhat colorblind person, I found the stacked circles [of multiple Tags] kind of hard to discern, but color cues like this are generally not designed for people like me."
As for Path Finder 6 by Cocoatech, Jumberbunch, $40 is surely a bit steep just to get the Labels back. It seems to be just a small part of what this complex app does. I've not actually tried it - has anyone here done so?
I rather think we're looking for a simpler one-hit fix, aren't we? Or, of course, for Apple to fix it in 10.9.1. I'm not holding my breath.
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Nov 1, 2013 10:51 AM in response to nigmiaby Laralyn10,Oh, good quote, thanks though I think I heard someone else say it, too..
anyway. yeah, PathFinder does more- but if nobody else fixes it, I'll gladly spend those 40 bucks. Though I hope TotalFinder by binaryage will also add bringing back labels as a feature, as TF is only 18 bucks and does a lot of other stuff too. I already added to the "Wish: Return Finder Labels to Mavericks" thread on binaryage's support forum. Feel free to join in.
Of course, best case scenario Apple brings back labels themselves.. but I am getting labels back, one way or another.
nigmia wrote:
Laralyn, it was Jason Snell at Macworld. He said: "As a somewhat colorblind person, I found the stacked circles [of multiple Tags] kind of hard to discern, but color cues like this are generally not designed for people like me."
As for Path Finder 6 by Cocoatech, Jumberbunch, $40 is surely a bit steep just to get the Labels back. It seems to be just a small part of what this complex app does. I've not actually tried it - has anyone here done so?
I rather think we're looking for a simpler one-hit fix, aren't we? Or, of course, for Apple to fix it in 10.9.1. I'm not holding my breath.
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Nov 1, 2013 12:38 PM in response to Laralyn10by cfe,Thank you! I just downloaded Patfinder as it is a 30 day free trial. I immediately got my Labels back! YEAH!!! As the Mavericsk upgrade was free, the $40 is well worth feeling great again! Hmmmm, ever wonder is Apple owns Pathfinder and they knew that using tags would send a lot of Mac users to Pathfinder?? Naw, they wouldn't do that...would they?
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Nov 1, 2013 12:46 PM in response to cfeby Laralyn10,awesome what's the experience like? is it an app you run instead of the finder..? or it just patches the finder? is it possible to hide the other PF features? I don't think I particularly need anything other than labels.
cfe wrote:
Thank you! I just downloaded Patfinder as it is a 30 day free trial. I immediately got my Labels back! YEAH!!! As the Mavericsk upgrade was free, the $40 is well worth feeling great again! Hmmmm, ever wonder is Apple owns Pathfinder and they knew that using tags would send a lot of Mac users to Pathfinder?? Naw, they wouldn't do that...would they?
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Nov 1, 2013 12:51 PM in response to Laralyn10by cfe,Well...it is just AWESOME! Go here and see..https://twitter.com/Cocoatech/status/394930667034660864/photo/1
Apple has really made a major mistake going to tags only. I should buy stock in Pathfinder? LOL
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Nov 1, 2013 1:04 PM in response to cfeby Laralyn10,yeah.. I posted that link first I meant what is the rest of running PF like?
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Nov 1, 2013 1:09 PM in response to Madashelluphereby peterleary,The problem with all of those alternate finder programs is that they can't completely replace finder. As far as I know any file management from other applications (such as saving or opening) will use the standard OSX finder.
That said they do look like they can do some good stuff...
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Nov 1, 2013 1:14 PM in response to peterlearyby Laralyn10,yeah I agree, I'd prefer for Apple to fix it themselves.
peterleary wrote:
The problem with all of those alternate finder programs is that they can't completely replace finder. As far as I know any file management from other applications (such as saving or opening) will use the standard OSX finder.
That said they do look like they can do some good stuff...
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Nov 1, 2013 2:56 PM in response to Madashelluphereby Wizard_Magic_Spell,Great to see a temporary solution has been found with Path Finder BUT we must not let Apple off the hook. Anybody reading this part of the forum for the first time,and wants Apple's colour labels reinstating,then please click the following link and let them know. We should not have to rely on third-party software for something that should already be included in Mavericks.
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Nov 1, 2013 4:44 PM in response to Wizard_Magic_Spellby Pontotoc Peg,Agreed, Wizard. Apple should reinstate the colored labels. Have sent feedback to Apple.
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Nov 1, 2013 4:49 PM in response to Wizard_Magic_Spellby petermac87,Wizard_Magic_Spell wrote:
We should not have to rely on third-party software for something that should already be included in Mavericks.
But, other than a half a dozen of you here, out of the many millions who have downloaded Mavericks, I don't see much complaining. There have always and will always be third-party alternatives. Apple may well be just trimming the fat off OSXs from some old features that are rarely used. They have dropped such things as 'Bounce Mail' and changed the habits of 'Save As' and replaced Spaces and Expose with Mission Control and are still having their new OSXs downloaded at record rates.
Those who do not care for change have the option to return to their previously loved OSX through their backup or simply not download the new OSX. But any new computers purshased will have the latest OSX on them, as has forever been the case.
All you can do is give feedback to Apple, but with the very little demand for old features as this, I would not be holding your breath.
Cheers
Pete
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Nov 1, 2013 5:29 PM in response to petermac87by Laralyn10,Pete, I warn you, this is a pet peeve of mine. Don't tell me that a feature dear to me is merely "fat" to be trimmed away. Clearly, many people used labels the say I did. Specifically, creative professionals. Do you have anything helpful to add, or do you just want to get on a high horse and lecture us all that we must buck up and get with the new and "better" way or stay on ML and be stuck in the stone age forever?
How would YOU feel if something that you relied on was yanked away? Would you maybe think that you had the right to find out if others feel the same way as you and to send feedback, and if enough people are of the same opinion, to have the feature possibly restored? Yeah, sounds reasonable? OK then!
Yes, I get it, it's Apple might not fix this. Did you read my posts? I acknolwedge this. You seem to tell me as though it is new information. Look around. This is the place to be to get things changed. THIS is the place to find other people who feel the same and send feedback to Apple.
You can't just apply this "oh well, Apple changed it and it's no use trying to fight it now.." attitude to everything. Apple can and does respond to feedback and feature requests.
It is my hope that this will become one of those accesability features that everyone uses, despite not having any disability. Like, the option to turn off the paralax effect and other motion effects on iOS 7- yes, a few people needed it in order not to feel nausesus.. but I've heard many people say they used it just because of preference.
Maybe this is different. Maybe labels really are gone for good. Maybe this is symptomatic of Apple in general abandoning the very users who invested in it in the 90s.. the creatives, the different-thinkers, in favor of the more profitable masses. Maybe something else will come along to fill that niche. Or maybe not, I don't know! But I do know that I don't need you telling me "Those who do not care for change have the option to return to their previously loved OSX through their backup or simply not download the new OSX." because that's pretty much just a passive-aggressive "nice" way of saying "tough beans. if you don't like it, just stay behind and don't complain."
petermac87 wrote:
But, other than a half a dozen of you here, out of the many millions who have downloaded Mavericks, I don't see much complaining. There have always and will always be third-party alternatives. Apple may well be just trimming the fat off OSXs from some old features that are rarely used. They have dropped such things as 'Bounce Mail' and changed the habits of 'Save As' and replaced Spaces and Expose with Mission Control and are still having their new OSXs downloaded at record rates.
Those who do not care for change have the option to return to their previously loved OSX through their backup or simply not download the new OSX. But any new computers purshased will have the latest OSX on them, as has forever been the case.
All you can do is give feedback to Apple, but with the very little demand for old features as this, I would not be holding your breath.
Cheers
Pete