Q: Did kotoeri changed with Maverick?

Arnaud Nanta wrote:

 

   I think that kind of solution would be too harsh for the common user.

 

In practice it normally amounts to copy/pasting a command into Terminal.app, which I think a lot of users would be willing to do.  I'm not so optimistic about a rapid fix from Apple.

I suffer from the same troubles (French Keyboard switch to Kotoeri keeps the AZERTY layout) which is super annoying especially on a Japanese Mac. I really hope Apple considers this as a bug and not a "feature" as the support note wording is ambiguous. Even the preference panel is lying.

For the moment, my only option is to insert an QUERTY keyboard in between.

Sorry for the double post but searching japanese users forum, I found a better workaround for this mapping problem. Google provides an alternate IME for Japanese here : http://www.google.co.jp/intl/ja/ime/

After installing it, you need to go to the preferences and check "Always use Ja keyboard layout for Japanese Input" under the Advanced tab (else it will use Kotoeri as a base and runs into the same problem).

I've yet to test it extensively but seems to do the trick. I'll appreciate any feedback.

   I just installed this Google IME.

   It seems to work pretty well. Thank you. And according to the video demonstration, the recognition seems to be pretty developed.

   By the way, there is the option to install and use Atok instead of Kotoeri too, but it is not free…

Same problem here when switching from French to Japanese.

Sent them bugreport.

Apple has broken both Japanese and Chinese! I can no longer type either Japanese or Chinese punctuation marks. I use Finnish Extended, Hiragana and Pinyin input and it uses the Finnish keyboard layout for everything except letters.

Miharin wrote:

 

Apple has broken both Japanese and Chinese!

I think it is normal behavior for Chinese pinyin input to use the layout of the last Latin keyboard, at least for some time now.  At one point in the past it could only use US qwerty.  I would be curious what characters you cannot make.  Are you using a JIS keyboard for Chinese?

Can you fix the problem by activating the US layout and switching to that before doing pinyin?

I can't type for example the character ~ (full width version) or any of the symbols that are supposed to be between P, L and enter because they just give me the Finnish letters öäå. I can't find some of the punctuation marks that are supposed to be there, I've tried every possible key combination already. Some can be found from different places than usual.

Switching to US English first is a "fix" but pretty cumbersome if you ask me. It looks to me like an oversight and not a feature, but who knows what Apple was thinking with this. I will have to download both Google Pinyin and Japanese to go back to normal.

Miharin wrote:

 

I can't type for example the character ~ (full width version) or any of the symbols that are supposed to be between P, L and enter because they just give me the Finnish letters öäå.

What OS version did you have before Mavericks?  In 10.7 I always have to switch to US before pinyin to get those characters if I am using another layout, so it does not seem to have changed.

I used 10.8 but I cannot actually remember if I faced this certain issue with pinyin because I haven't used Chinese very much, unlike Japanese which worked fine before. But if what you say is true, then this issue has been here for a few years and now it's a new great "feature" that has been applied to Japanese as well, disabling non-US users from typing certain Japanese characters...

So it fell to Google to fix this. I downloaded Google Japanese input and it works great.

+1 Broken still

Tom answered this question, ~ third reply. I think OP should mark this thread as question answered.

10.9.1 has

• Addresses an issue that may cause Japanese keyboards to retain a previously used language

I can confirm that 10.9.1 fixes this issue.