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Moving to Logic from Pro Tools

2429 Views 30 Replies Latest reply: Jan 17, 2014 1:06 PM by Cartoonguy RSS
  • kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,580 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 1:52 PM (in response to Pancenter)

    No, I'm most certainly not joking! Maybe it was because of my explicit use of the plus sign, a number one and an exclamation mark.

     

    Cheers!

  • The Art Of Sound Level 5 Level 5 (5,690 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 1:54 PM (in response to kcstudio)

    Wow......... I don't know what to say...

  • kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,580 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 2:14 PM (in response to The Art Of Sound)

    Right!

    What puzzles me though, they said my offending mail (in breach of forum regulations apparently) would be removed and then..........it didn't?!

     

    Well, whatever!

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 2:15 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    Cartoonguy wrote:

     

    Pancenter wrote:

     

    Evidently you have Logic or some version of it... so what's to ask? Either it's working for you or it's not.

    Pancenter, I'm not sure why you ask such a question.  Obviously I wouldn't bother posting here if I wasn't seeking information from users more experienced than myself.  It might be working just fine for me, until I go to do X and find a big issue that I hadn't considered in my more limited experience.

     

    But no one has ANY idea what your X is?

     

    Evidently you have some version of Logic, I would say use it just like you use ProTools.

    If there's an X you will find it soon enough.

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 3:05 PM (in response to kcstudio)

    kcstudio wrote:

     

    No, I'm most certainly not joking! Maybe it was because of my explicit use of the plus sign, a number one and an exclamation mark.

     

    Cheers!

     

    Maybe they first thought it was a curse word you were implying...

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 4:52 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    The main one that I'm familiar with is that ProTools in all versions is a "time based" application while Logic at it's base level is a "tempo (beat) based" application.

     

    Protools deals with audio directly in the arrange window, Logic does not.

     

    This doesn't apply to you (you're not using plugins) but Logic has been known to displace the graphic image of the waveform.. relative to the position of the sound. This only happens under certain conditions and probably would not effect your editing.

     

    There's a reason ProTools and Nuendo are used in most  video/audio suites

  • Data Stream Studio Level 4 Level 4 (3,150 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 9:43 PM (in response to Pancenter)

    Not one concrete example of something that is easier to do in PT than in Logic?

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 1, 2013 10:02 PM (in response to Data Stream Studio)

    That's easy.

     

    Apply or audition any effect, both the application's and 3rd party to any piece of selected audio.

     

    Example:  multiple occurance's of sibilance on an otherwise perfect voice/vocal take.

     

    Much easier to select/highlight problem areas and apply an eq setting with reduced volume than to use bounce-in-place or automation.

     

    If you know what you want, Logic's methods are a time waster.  

  • kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,580 points)
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    Nov 2, 2013 12:04 AM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    Adding to what Pancenter already wrote, LPX and PT are different platforms, each with an distinctly different set of features IMO.

     

    Some of my all time favorites are:

     

    -The Import Session Data dialog

    Copying mix settings, importing tracks (not just raw audio but the actual tracks) from other sessions, reverting parts (but not all) of the session back to an earlier one. These are real time savers for me

     

    -Shuffle edit mode

    If you know what you're doing, you can achieve close to magic.

     

    -Edit and mix groups

    I prefer the intuitive way it's implemented in PT

     

    -Take management

    PT's playlist system is excellent for my needs. Come home with some 300 classical recording takes, start assembling/editing and you know what I mean.

     

    These are my personal point of views! The rest you"ll have to find out by yourself.

     

    Have a nice day!

  • Data Stream Studio Level 4 Level 4 (3,150 points)
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    Nov 2, 2013 11:19 AM (in response to Pancenter)

    That IS cool. Thanks.

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 2, 2013 12:31 PM (in response to kcstudio)

    kcstudio wrote:

     

    Adding to what Pancenter already wrote, LPX and PT are different platforms, each with an distinctly different set of features IMO.

     

    -The Import Session Data dialog

    Copying mix settings, importing tracks (not just raw audio but the actual tracks) from other sessions, reverting parts (but not all) of the session back to an earlier one. These are real time savers for me

     

    -Shuffle edit mode

    If you know what you're doing, you can achieve close to magic.

     

    -Edit and mix groups

    I prefer the intuitive way it's implemented in PT

     

    -Take management

    PT's playlist system is excellent for my needs. Come home with some 300 classical recording takes, start assembling/editing and you know what I mean.

     

    These are my personal point of views! The rest you"ll have to find out by yourself.

     

    Have a nice day!

     

    +1 on all these, but especially Shuffle Edit Mode.

     

    I'm learning on a ProTools system in another studio, taking private twice montly lessons.

  • kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,580 points)
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    Nov 2, 2013 4:03 PM (in response to Pancenter)

    I'm privileged to work with someone who is an PT expert and many times I'm in the position to judge objectively the pros & cons of both the daws. You will benefit greatly from this PT lessons I'm sure.

     

    Have a nice day!

  • MrMackerel Calculating status...
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    Jan 16, 2014 4:39 PM (in response to Cartoonguy)

    LP might be the way to go. It's cheaper overall, and has a ton of tools for you to use. You have to get to know them well, of course. There are Logic Pro training book series for both 9 and X that were created for those studying for the Apple Certified tests that are both well done, and worth the extra cash, imo.

     

    LP and PT do sound different, but I don't think it really matters. You won't even notice unless you A/B them. Regarding workflow, I still like PT better so far, but that's because it's built to work more like hardware, and I find that rather intuitive. LP I sit down with time to time to get to know better, but it frequently frustrates me with how sloppily, in my opinion, it handles multitimbral instruments and mixer organization. It doesn't sound like these are things you'll be concerned with, though.

     

    Out of the box, LP has better effects plugins, strangely. However, I don't really care for most of the standard plugins from either PT or LP. I use Waves and iZotope for most of my work, and am happy with that. Regarding instruments, I believe LP gives you a wider variety out of the box, but again I don't really use the stock instruments from either DAW. (With the exception of LP's sampler, which is a really cool tool.)

     

    So again, in my opinion, PT has a more intuitive workflow, but LP has more tools out of the box and will cost you less in regards to software. (Regarding time, it will just depend on what you are doing and how you figure out how to do it.)

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