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Nov 2, 2013 5:33 PM in response to Trocafishby ishouldknow,Guys, I don't think it has anything to do with firewire, USB, thunderbird, WD software or being external.
I have an internal Western Digital harddrive and Mavericks started to erase data from my internal harddrive today. First system became sluggish, then I noticed that some files were missing and eventually my system crashed. Ever since I cannot boot anymore. Disk Utility sais that my drive needs to be formated.
I never had any Western Digital software installed nor have I an external harddrive.
I also heard that some Seagate harddrives had the same issue.
It seems to be a Mavericks issue. Be aware that Mavericks can start to erase data on your internal harddrive incl. the OS. Do a backup of your internal harddrive as long as you can.
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Nov 2, 2013 5:42 PM in response to Trocafishby AmArly,Looks like this is a Maverick's issue since my toshiba 2.5" hdd in a third party enclosure has the same issue. Maverick automatically repartition the drive into two partitions (EFI and HFS) leaving with 120mb of unallocated space. One being labeled MyBook. I don't have any WD utility or any other disk utily installed that it makes me wonder why it automatically labeled it MyBook. I have three WD external drives I used and only two of them labeled MyBook. One I used for my Time Machine Backup which is 2TB.
I wanted to restore my MBP now from my time machine backup but it only shows me my two oldest backup when I do so. I do my backup atleast once a month and it shows me the last successful backup which I did right before I upgrade to Maverick. I do have multiple backups of my important data (Thank God) based from past experience.
Let's see if I will be able to recover anything from this drive.
Is Apple trying to be like Microsoft now???
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Nov 2, 2013 6:49 PM in response to Trocafishby coxorange,To all who have this problem:
Thanks for the warning. I have 4 Studio II drives and 2 Mac-formatted "black" Mirror drives (all 2 TB, Raid 1, used with Time Machine) and just wanted to upgrade to Mavericks when I read this thread.
Questions:
1. Could it be that it's firmware version dependent? (Which version do you have on your drives?)
I had problems updating the firmware:
Before installing Mac OS Mavericks I wanted to upgrade the firmware of my My Book Studio Edition II drives. I followed all instructions, but when running WDFirmwareUpdater.app I got the message:
The operation couldn’t be completed. (NSURLErrorDomain error -3003.)
But I could continue the firmware upgrade, so I tried it. Unfortunatel in the end I got the message:
Firmware update failed
Unable to find device to update. Check your cable connection, and then run
WD Firmware Updater again.
Click Exit, and then run the WD Firmware Updater again.Repeating didn't help.
BTW: 3 things were not clear: During the upgrade:
- should WD Drive Manager be running (or quit?)
- should the drive be mounted (or ejected?)
- should the drive be on (or switched off?)
Where can I show/see which firmware version is currently installed?
2. When you encountered the problem, did you try to backup to your drive, when there was already a backup on it? For example previously used by Time Machine under Mountain Lion and now tried to continue to use it under Mavericks? Or did you use a "fresh", empty drive?
BTW Under http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=114&sid=62&lang=en the WD Drive Manager v2.2.7 with WD RAID Manager Version 1.1.4 of 09 October 2012 has been removed by WD. It claimed that it's compatible with Mac OS 10.9! See the screenshot:
It's still in Google Cache:
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Nov 2, 2013 7:00 PM in response to Tom in Londonby troutmouth,even if i can recover files - they need to be in the same directories and file names. otherwise my 6 year old iTunes library is gone. Currently Disk Drill has recovered over 90,000 files - good luck me trying to rename that!
Toms Hardware - i think the panic button is well and truly 'on' for many Maverick users.
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Nov 2, 2013 7:04 PM in response to Trocafishby ishouldknow,Again:
Backup your internal harddrive. Mavericks also deletes internal harddrives until Mavericks crashes and cannot boot anymore.
Happend to me and many others:https://discussions.apple.com/message/23500179#23500179
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Nov 3, 2013 12:20 AM in response to troutmouthby putnik,You might try using iPhoto Library Manager, which can create a new library from scratch. Though I don't know if it is ready for Mavericks yet.
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Nov 3, 2013 5:09 AM in response to Trocafishby markkempen,Here everyting works fine. I've installed mavericks and I have a WD MyBook 4GB (2x2GB) and all files are showing up fine. I've restarted the system numerous times and no problems. I should note that the drive was connected to my iMac when I was upgrading to mavericks. So the problem is not occuring to everyone.
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Nov 3, 2013 5:39 AM in response to markkempenby swizzy,markkempen wrote:
Here everyting works fine. I've installed mavericks and I have a WD MyBook 4GB (2x2GB) and all files are showing up fine. I've restarted the system numerous times and no problems. I should note that the drive was connected to my iMac when I was upgrading to mavericks. So the problem is not occuring to everyone.
I believe the problem was remedied at some point by Apple. I upgraded 3 days ago from 10.6.8 on my Mac Mini with 3 WD drives connected and also have no problems. The WD drive manager and other software was put into a folder called "incopatible software" on the Mac HD. I did however find a WD app running in activitly monitor which I stopped from running. I then found a WD folder in Application support which I deleted. All that software that I found by digging may have been a result of trying to reinstall the software from the WD site -said software is no longer available. I think it would be helpful if anyone that's having this problem states when Mavericks was installed.
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Nov 3, 2013 7:11 AM in response to Trocafishby milesdesign,I have the same issue: external HD renamed "My Book" and showing as empty.
But the drive is not a WD drive. It is a Seagate 1TB USB drive, no raid, no WD or third party drive software, formatted originally using Apple's Disk Utility. Up until today, there have been no issues with the drive.
I have opened a support case with Apple on this issue.
I am attempting to recover the files to a non-Mavericks Mac as I write this, as that seems to be the only solution. I don't believe there will be a quick fix, if and when Apple decides to respond to this.
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Nov 3, 2013 7:19 AM in response to milesdesignby AKabas,Hi milesdesign,
>It is a Seagate 1TB USB drive, no raid, no WD or third party drive software
Can you please check to see there are no files or folders with "WD", "WesternDigital" or "wdc" in their names in the following folders?:
/Library/Application Support
/Library/LaunchAgents
/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/Preferences
/System/Library/Extensions
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Nov 3, 2013 8:09 AM in response to AKabasby milesdesign,Hi AKabas,
Yes, I had already checked all of those locations (and the Applications and Utilities folders) and I didn't find anything associated with WD...
BUT, I have now located one file - WDMyBookService - located in /Library/StartupItems/WDMyBookServiceStartupItem (though it was not listed in the Login items in the User system preferences.)
I had not noticed that file or location mentioned in this or any of the several other threads I am following on this issue.
Anyway, I deleted the file and its folder, restarted, and reattached the HD with the issue. Nothing happened - the drive is still named "My Book" and is empty (I didn't really expect that to fix the issue; my only hope is that it might prevent this happening to any of my other drives.)
So... I am now back to my attempt to recover the files from the drive to my non-Mavericks Mac.
Perhaps this is a WD issue after all, though it seems that any drive - regardless of make or type of connection - can be affected.
So... It may be worthwhile for everyone to check their /Library/StartupItems as well as the other places mentioned.
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Nov 3, 2013 8:22 AM in response to milesdesignby AKabas,Thanks for that, I now found a folder named WDBMService in /Library/StartupItems.
So far, the list of places to look for WD software is as follows. Please feel free to add.
/Library/Application Support
/Library/LaunchAgents
/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/Preferences
/System/Library/Extensions
/Library/StartupItems
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Nov 3, 2013 9:26 AM in response to AKabasby brobertson2,I was a first day Mavericks guy who installed it within hours after it came out. I did a Clean Install.
My "Time Machine" is a WD external drive that was originally a PC disk that I reformatted to work with Mac. It worked fine, no problems, and was used to retreive files while putting my system back together -- although it was slow. It even made a few backups before I shut it down.
I have two other WD Externals: one is a PC drive that I reformatted to use on the Mac and the other is "My Passport for Mac" that was obviously a Mac disk from the factory. I never knowingly installed any WD software.
Upon reading this thread (when it was just one page long in Apple's support forum), I unplugged my Time Machine, and have been afraid to plug in my other two WD External drives out of fear that they would be wiped clean.
AKabas: I've checked ALL of the folders you and others mentioned in this thread -- several times -- and never found any WD, Western Digital, or wdc, files or sub-folders in them.
As a point of reference, I do not have a folder marked "Incompatible Software".
Question to anyone who cares to reply: Do you think I'm okay and can plug in my WD External Drives? or should I wait until Apple has a update to address this issue? I'm very uncomfortable with installing driver updates from Western Digital. First is I've never done any WD driver update on any of my drives, nor do I see a need to do so; and, secondly, if I wanted to do a driver update, how do I do that if the drive could be reformatted when I plug it in to do a driver update -- that will prevent it from being reformatted? I prefer an Apple solution rather than a WD solution.
Somewhere earlier in this thread, someone mentioned they spoke with Apple and their rep said it was not an Apple problem. I disagree. Who wrote the code that went into effect and wiped clean the drives without warning you something was about to happen. If Apple wrote that code then they are responsible. They should have put instructions into Mavericks to warn a user that a Disk or Drive reformat utility was about to wipe clean a disk, and given you the option to say no so you could eject the Disk before it was killed.
I am an APPLE Fanboy and have used their products since the Apple IIc (which I wish I still owned) and VisiCalc, and will continue to use their stuff in the future. This is a horrible problem that someone should have seen coming. But I believe that Apple must, and will, come up with a fix -- hopefully very soon. That's my 2 cents on this.
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Nov 3, 2013 10:51 AM in response to AKabasby AKabas,Drives being emptied and renamed to "MyBook" in the absence of WD software is strange.
This is from a WD staff member in the WD forum http://community.wd.com/t5/External-Drives-for-Mac/External-Drives-for-Mac-Exper iencing-Data-Loss-with-Maverick-OS/td-p/613775/page/3
Steps to completely remove WD SmartWare from your Mac:
• Run the SmartWare uninstaller application located in /Applications/
• Using Apple’s Activity Monitor from /Applications/Utilities quit the following processes:
WDDMService
WD Quick View
SmartwareServerApp
• Delete /Library/LaunchDeamons/com.wdc.WDDMService.plist (Entry that causes WDDM to start.)
• Delete /Library/LaunchDeamons/com.wdc.WDSmartWareServer.plist (Entry that causes the SmartWare Server to start.)
• Delete /Applications Support/WDSmartware (Removes all SmartWare support programs)
• Delete /Application/WDSmartWare (SmartWare user interface)
• Delete Library/Preferences/com.wdc.smartware.plist
• From System Preferences->Users Login Items remove WDQuickview for all users. (Entry that runs WD Quick View when a user logs in. There should be a single entry for all users. Deleting it from one any account should remove it for all accounts.)
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I also put together the following list of places where I found WD software through my communication with Apple, WD and forums. There are a couple more places in it which are not mentioned above.
/Library/Application Support
/Library/LaunchAgents
/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/Preferences
/System/Library/Extensions
/Library/StartupItems
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Nov 3, 2013 1:29 PM in response to Trocafishby mike-h,To everyone reporting data loss it would really help if you could provide the following:
- mac model number / description eg MacBookPro9,1 (Mid 2012 MacBookPro Retina)
- external drive(s) model, capacity, connection, empty name eg WD MyBook Studio II 6GB connected via Thunderbolt reappeared as empty MyBook and EFI partition
You can find your mac model number using Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info... button under Hardware Overview: Model Identifier.
