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dsloan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Updated iMac to Mavericks & the new Aperture 3.5. Unable to update my vaults. They run about half way thru & then Aperture crashes. I have to close. Reboot iMac & relaunch Aperture.


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  • 1. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    dsloan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    More info. I have deleted all old vaults completley, and have tried to launch all new vaults (2)...one at a time.

  • 2. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    cayenne65 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The same issue on my Aperture. I have 3.5 running on OS 10.9 and any attempt on updating the vaults on NAS are unsucesfull. Aperture just stops responding.

    I tried to create a new vault on USB connected external drive but with the same results.

    I did repair permission and database but no progress at all.

     

    Any help or ideas?

  • 3. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,775 points)

    How are your drives formatted? A vault is essentially an Aperture library and needs to be on a drive formatted MacOS X Extended journaled. Previous versions of Aperture tried to work with incorrectly formatted drives, but Aperture 3.5 is checking the formatting and will not open a lbrary on a drive with the wrong formatting. Your NAS has probably a different filesystem, since a NAS requires special software, and what is the formatting of your USB drive?

  • 4. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    cayenne65 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    For many years I had never a single issue with the vault on NAS ( Synology) starting with Aperture 2 till now.

    Yes, it is most probably Synology proprietary format and it's a pity that Apple didn't mentioned vault limitation on 3.5 release notes.

    Yeah, I don't need the iCloud Photo Sharing but I DO NEED the vaults

     

    My USB disc is Mac OS Extended Journaled. Aperture is not responding as I see it at the Dock and in the system. However the disc is working and the file size is continuously growing, currently 170 GB with expected size approx. 220 GB.

     

    I will post final results in a few hours.

     

  • 5. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    cayenne65 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just to continue the topic...

     

    Updating the vault continued for another 4 hours with Aperture still in "not responding" mode.

     

    But after that time the was no disc activity so I decided to force quit of Aperture.

    Then I restarted it againg and started to update the vault once again.

     

    Aperture went into "not responding" again but this time for approx 20 min and then...

    .. the green colour confirmed that vault is up to date and working !!!

     

    With the NAS vault there is no progress at all.

     

    So I presume that it needs to be a Mac OS Extended Journaled volume, but there should be a fix for Aperture to communicate with Maverics properly and not showing "not responding" message.

  • 6. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    Clem Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    dsloan - is your vault also on an external drive, specifically a NAS setup drive? If so, how is it configured?

     

    In general NAS drives, though convenient, are not recommended for your libraries (or vaults) themselves, per this support article, due to the proprietary formating/mounting configurations:  http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3252

  • 7. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    dsloan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm away from my iMac for a few days. I am backing up my vaults on an external drive. I believe that it is confrigured correctly, but I won't know for sure until Friday, the 8th. I will take a look at the external drive I use on my MacBook Pro & Aperture.

  • 8. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    Ashley2good Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Having completed a photo shoot at the weekend I've just discovered I have this problem too.

     

    I also feel very vulnerable not being able to back up the clients work - Aperture is classed as a "Professional Application" and the way its is working at the moment feels very amateurish !!

  • 9. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    dsloan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Back to my iMac now. All three external HDs are:

    Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

  • 10. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,775 points)

    Back to my iMac now. All three external HDs are:

    Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

    How are your drives connected?  If you are having them daisy-chained or are using a HUB, try to connect the drive with the vault directly. There have been reports that Mavericks sometimes has problems with daisy-chained drives or certain USB HUBs.

    Re: Copying aperture library from one external disk to another fails with error -36

  • 11. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    firstlaunch Level 3 Level 3 (610 points)

    I recall older posts noted that vaults will sometimes take a really long time to complete and might appear they might be hanging. I suggest letting it run overnight and see if it finishes...maybe longer.

  • 12. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    dsloan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    All three external HDs are connected directly to the iMac. My primary photo drive is an 800 firewire, the secondary drive that backs up the primary is a 400 firewire. They drive I'm trying to save the vault to is a USB 2.0. The Aperture Library is located on the iMac internal HD and is about 135GB in size. 95% of the files are referenced to the primary external photo HD. The rest are managed images within the Aperture Library.

    I have deleted the failed Vault and will try to create a new one again. I have left it running for quite a long time. The problem is that Aperture crashes and I have to reboot and restart...to no avail.

  • 13. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    dsloan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just tried to download pix from my camera and Aperture crashed in the middle of the download. Works fine in my 15" MacBook Pro but worthless on my iMac all running the same software.

  • 14. Re: Aperture 3.5 on OS X 10.9
    dsloan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My original post on Nov 3...

     

    Updated iMac to Mavericks & the new Aperture 3.5. Unable to update my vaults. They run about half way thru & then Aperture crashes. I have to close. Reboot iMac & relaunch Aperture.

     

    I've tried everything that Apple has suggested. I've reformatted the external drives and verified the permissions.

     

    Vaults update just fine on my 15" MBPro onto my external drive.

     

    Aperture crashes in the middle of creating or updated a vault on my iMac onto my external drives.

     

    Downloading Photoshop & Lightroom 5 even as I type.

     


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