Q: What has happened to Apple?

Let me say, for one, I have not had any issues whatsoever

with Mavericks (2011 Mini Server, 2011 13" Macbook Pro,

2010 Mini).

Now, with that said, what I find particularly odd in my scanning

of all of the posts in the Mavericks community is that seemingly

most of the issues that have come up are with the most recent

Macs.  I have not done a statistical count but it sure does seem to

be that way.  Why is this the case?  One would think that the

balance of upgrade issues should be weighted toward the older

platforms.

This has just been my general observation and opinion but it does

seem to be the case to me.

All went well wrt reinstall  and diagnostics, permissions repair on the external drives and so far so good again. Thanks to you Barney etal for all the input. It has been a positive learning experiennce for me. PS. To those of you who have responded with helpful suggestions to my problems.... The French say that criticism is easy but doing something is harder, so don't pay to much attention to the nay sayers, you have done a lot more than help. You have taught.

Xsfnrg wrote:

The French say that criticism is easy but doing something is harder, so don't pay to much attention to the nay sayers, you have done a lot more than help. You have taught.

Thank you for the kind works, it's kinda the point of a support forum.

Xsfnrg wrote:

All went well wrt reinstall  and diagnostics, permissions repair on the external drives and so far so good again. Thanks to you Barney etal for all the input. It has been a positive learning experiennce for me. PS. To those of you who have responded with helpful suggestions to my problems.... The French say that criticism is easy but doing something is harder, so don't pay to much attention to the nay sayers, you have done a lot more than help. You have taught.

Xsfnrg wrote:

 

All went well wrt reinstall  and diagnostics, permissions repair on the external drives and so far so good again. Thanks to you Barney etal for all the input. It has been a positive learning experiennce for me. PS. To those of you who have responded with helpful suggestions to my problems.... The French say that criticism is easy but doing something is harder, so don't pay to much attention to the nay sayers, you have done a lot more than help. You have taught.

Happy Computing.

Cheers

Pete

Simple, they are becoming more and more like Microsoft. Adding unnecessary "features," and ignoring what is really wanted or needed. They just keep assuming everyone will contintue singing it's praises. In other words, they are believing their own press clippings.

I'm reminded of the "1984" ad. Only now it's Apple who is on the receiving end of the sledgehammer toss. Ironically it's MS, Lenovo (former IBM) who are loading up on hammers.

Apple has been more about "style" than substance. Now they can't even claim the style mantle anymore. I think they are lost at how to compete in world where their flaws are no longer ignored. Reminds me of a certain President.

And your question is......?????

Drew, I reverted back to ML after I lost a Canon Scanner, an Epson printer and Adobe Creative Suite,

  had some good Tier 2 support, but had a lot of problems.  Time Machine Backup made problems worse.  Would like to try again but will wait.  In the Meantime per your suggestion

Hardware Information:

            iMac (24-inch, Early 2009)

            iMac - model: iMac9,1

            1 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores

            4 GB RAM

Video Information:

            NVIDIA GeForce 9400 - VRAM: 256 MB

Audio Plug-ins:

            AirPlay: Version: 1.7

            iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.1

System Software:

            OS X 10.8.5 (12F45) - Uptime: 0 days 4:54:27

Disk Information:

            WDC WD6400AAKS-40H2B0 disk0 : (640.14 GB)

                        disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 639.28 GB (572.89 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

            HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GA11N 

USB Information:

            EPSON USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)

            Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

            Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

                        Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

            Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

            Mitsumi Electric Apple Optical USB Mouse

            Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

FireWire Information:

            LaCie d2 quadra (button) 800mbit - 800mbit max

                        disk1s1 (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        TimeMachineBackUp (disk1s2) /Volumes/TimeMachineBackUp: 999.86 GB (717.74 GB free)

Thunderbolt Information:

Kernel Extensions:

            com.symantec.kext.internetSecurity            (5.3f6)

            com.symantec.kext.pf            (5.6f22)

            com.symantec.kext.ips            (3.9f13)

            com.symantec.kext.fw            (5.3f12)

            com.symantec.kext.SymAPComm            (12.6f28)

Problem System Launch Daemons:

            [failed]            com.apple.coresymbolicationd.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.wdhelper.plist

Problem System Launch Agents:

            [failed]            com.apple.accountsd.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.AirPlayUIAgent.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.printtool.agent.plist

Launch Daemons:

            [loaded]            com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

            [loaded]            com.adobe.versioncueCS4.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.deepsight-extractor.plist

            [failed]            com.symantec.errorreporter-periodic.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.liveupdate.daemon.ondemand.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.liveupdate.daemon.plist

            [not loaded]            com.symantec.nav.migrateqtf.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.sharedsettings.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.symdaemon.plist

Launch Agents:

            [loaded]            com.adobe.CS4ServiceManager.plist

            [loaded]            com.epson.epw.agent.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.errorreporter-periodicagent.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.nis.application.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.uiagent.application.plist

User Launch Agents:

            [loaded]            com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

            [loaded]            com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

            [failed]            com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

            [failed]            com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

User Login Items:

            iTunesHelper

            AdobeResourceSynchronizer

            Zinio Alert Messenger

            SymSecondaryLaunch

3rd Party Preference Panes:

            Adobe Version Cue CS4

            Flash Player

            Java

            Norton\nQuickMenu

Internet Plug-ins:

            AdobePDFViewer.plugin

            AdobePDFViewerNPAPI.plugin

            AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin101750.plugin

            CouponPrinter-FireFox_v2.plugin

            Flash Player.plugin

            FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin

            iPhotoPhotocast.plugin

            JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

            JavaAppletsPlugin.plugin

            NortonInternetSecurityBF.plugin

            QuickTime Plugin.plugin

User Internet Plug-ins:

            CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin.plugin

Bad Fonts:

            None

Time Machine:

            Skip System Files: NO

            Mobile backups: OFF

            Auto backup: YES

            Volumes being backed up:

                        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 639.28 GB Disk used: 66.38 GB

            Destinations:

                        TimeMachineBackUp [Local] (Last used)

                        Total size: 999.86 GB

                        Total number of backups: 152

                        Oldest backup: 2011-03-11 01:40:03 +0000

                        Last backup: 2013-11-04 01:07:36 +0000

                        Size of backup disk: Adequate

                                    Backup size 999.86 GB > (Disk used 66.38 GB X 3)

Nortons (Symentec) will be your problem. Worse program you can install on a Mac. Quite destructive, actually. Uninstall completely.

Pete

Canary6,

Thanks for posting that, here is my opinion, when I say 'delete' below you have the option to copy off to another disk or move to another folder OR delete it. The choice is yours (I'd delete them) , but if they are left in place they will be using up resources and could be causing your issues. The items that load at the system level are troubling. There is a lot of potential for things to go wrong when something has all that power inside the system.

You will also want to have a sound backup before you modify the system.

Find these in: /Library/Extensions/

Kernel Extensions:

            com.symantec.kext.internetSecurity            (5.3f6)

            com.symantec.kext.pf            (5.6f22)

            com.symantec.kext.ips            (3.9f13)

            com.symantec.kext.fw            (5.3f12)

            com.symantec.kext.SymAPComm            (12.6f28)

These all load into the kernel, so this software better be the most current version. The kernel is the core of the operating system, it is better to avoid third parties doing anything at that level if.

It's pretty clear that Mavericks is in it's 'teething phase', so adding in extra code won't help matters.

Personally I think there is little reason for running Symantec's tools on a Mac so turn off as much as possible if you must run it.

Find these in: /Library/LaunchDaemons/

Launch Daemons:

            [loaded]            com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

            [loaded]            com.adobe.versioncueCS4.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.deepsight-extractor.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.liveupdate.daemon.ondemand.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.liveupdate.daemon.plist

            [not loaded]            com.symantec.nav.migrateqtf.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.sharedsettings.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.symdaemon.plist

            [failed]            com.symantec.errorreporter-periodic.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.coresymbolicationd.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.wdhelper.plist

Find these in: /Library/LaunchAgents/

Launch Agents:

            [loaded]            com.adobe.CS4ServiceManager.plist

            [loaded]            com.epson.epw.agent.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.errorreporter-periodicagent.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.nis.application.plist

            [loaded]            com.symantec.uiagent.application.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.accountsd.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.AirPlayUIAgent.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication.plist

            [failed]            com.apple.printtool.agent.plist

Find these in: ~/Library/LaunchAgents/ (~/ is your home folder)

User Launch Agents:

            [loaded]            com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

            [loaded]            com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

            [failed]            com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

            [failed]            com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

All of the [failed] jobs are all worrying. Failed means crashed, or doing something it isn't supposed to do.

The first two types run at the system level, so it it very important to remove them or make sure they are up to date. The ones inside your home are all running at the same level as your user. They can't wreck the system, but they can use up RAM & CPU and make other tasks slower. You probably only need one Adobe updater job (com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist).

The simplest thing to do is remove all of the failed jobs & reboot. They are .plist files (property lists).

Some jobs may come back, especially Symantec's because they will try to "keep your system secure" but that also means "make your system work harder".

You may have to follow Symantec's uninstall instructions to remove it completely.

Clean up any you don't need.

Run etrecheck again to see what jobs return.

Find these in: System Preferences > Users & groups > select your account > Login items tab.

User Login Items:

Check these apps are all up to date, remove them if you want to see if the Mac will login any quicker. If you miss them re-add them one by one, so you can see if it has a noticable effect.

Find these in: /Library/PreferencePanes/ or ~/Library/PreferencePanes/

3rd Party Preference Panes:

Check these are all up to date or remove them.

Find these in: /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ or ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/

Internet Plug-ins:

You have several copies of old Flash player, Adobe reader & Java Applet plugins.

Delete them or update them.

Java is so insecure it's not clever having it around inside the browser at all. Also disable Java in Safari's settings if it is on - it defeats the point of all that Symantec 'security' software. Java apps are OK if you need them - just avoid it in the browser at all costs.

Don't forget to reboot once the changes have been made.

I hope that helps, ask if you have questions, good luck.

I am a new Apple user as of July 2012.  I have a 21.5 IMAC, IPAD, IPOD, APPLE TV, and IPHONE. I know Apple does have some problems, however they are still far superior to windows. I would never go back.  I did not have any of the problems some of you are talking about.  My computer has worked just fine since I updated to the new software. I was one of those that updated on the same day it came out.  I had no problems at all.  I think sometimes for the older Macs maybe it is your computer that is causing these promblems especially since if it is an older version. 

I think their Apple support is 1 million times better than Microsoft.  There is just no comparison.  Anytime I have at to call for suppoer they were able to fix my problem.

Really? No issues? Then, you've not been bit by these:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/10/mavericks-issues-and-fixes

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6049

baltwo wrote:

 

Really? No issues? Then, you've not been bit by these:

 

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/10/mavericks-issues-and-fixes

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6049

I didn't have any of those issues, either.

None of those experienced here either.

Pete

Nope, none of them. Did you think that everyone who downloaded Mavericks had those issues?