8 Replies Latest reply: Nov 12, 2013 6:24 AM by trevc
trevc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I always wonder where iTunes/iPhoto would go and now that we have the next upgrade, I see that Apple didn't really change much.

 

I thought iPhoto would evolve and maybe even change it's name to an iMedia solution as name a new camera that doesn't do 1080p Video and to sync/manage it through iPhoto is cumbersome and very limiting.

 

Is there a better solution?  I've been revealing my movies in the Finder within iPhoto and then copying them to iTunes and then deleting them out of iPhoto.

 

Even a 'send to iTunes' option would be slick.

 

I can't be the only one that's not enthusiastic about Apples implementation so there must be Tips/solutions that others use that are way better?

 

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

  • 1. Re: Media solution?
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,735 points)

    Well 9.5 is an update to the existing iPhoto 11 not a new version. That said, there's never any guessing what Apple might choose to do (or not) with an app in the future.

     

    1080p means very little to iPhoto. What format is the video is the a more relevant question. Oh and doing this:

     

    I've been revealing my movies in the Finder within iPhoto and then copying them to iTunes and then deleting them out of iPhoto.

     

    risks damaging your Library. Better to Export the video: File -> Export, Kind: Original and then delete it from iPhoto.

     

    You could probably create a send to iTunes automator action in a few moments.

     

    As for recommending alternatives, I'm afraid you'll need to describe what you would like in such an app before we could.

  • 2. Re: Media solution?
    trevc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hmmm… I don’t see how copying files from the Finder to iTunes and then deleting them through the iPhoto interface could damage my Library.  It’s also an ‘extra’ step as the files are already in the .mp4 format from my camera and I wouldn’t want to lose the originals.

     

    In trying the export process which I’ve never done on a video,  it seemingly has zero support for anything video as it refers to image formats and so you have to resort to ‘Original File’.   The worrying thing is that when I did do a test, the exported .mp4 file was  8,379,278 bytes versus the original which was 8,379,927 so not sure if this is meta data or what, but it’s not 100% the original file.


    I think what would make me happy is simple video support integration where I could maybe ‘clip’ the movies and keep them with their photo events.  I mean I can’t even view the movies through the AppleTV interface until I move them into iTunes as it simply glosses over them when viewing their photo event, etc.    

     

    At this point, probably even a simple 'Export Movie to iTunes’ would make me happy and a little more happier is a solution where I import things once and can access them from any of the apple products.  Maybe an Applescript that looks for  movies in iPhoto and moves them to iTunes, keeping their event grouping but I’d probably even be more leary of library corruption, etc.

    The world has evolved where just about any new camera / smart phone  has video recording capabilities and I think the Apple ecosystem has to evolve as well.   This was even the case when iPhoto ’11 came out and so thought this update might try to address this in some way.   Now I can look forward to 2014 and hopefully they’ll update this 3 year old piece of software?

     

     

    Maybe I’m alone in thinking this way but the two people I’ve asked, this is a pain point for them too.

  • 3. Re: Media solution?
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,735 points)

    don’t see how copying files from the Finder to iTunes and then deleting them through the iPhoto interface could damage my Library.  It’s also an ‘extra’ step as the files are already in the .mp4 format from my camera and I wouldn’t want to lose the originals.

     

    Your way is not supported. The other way is.

     

    it seemingly has zero support for anything video as it refers to image formats and so you have to resort to ‘Original File’.   The worrying thing is that when I did do a test, the exported .mp4 file was  8,379,278 bytes versus the original which was 8,379,927 so not sure if this is meta data or what, but it’s not 100% the original file.

     

    Resort? That's how you do it. iPhoto doesn't edit movies so you're exporting the Original. As for the missing bytes, you're assuming the Finder is an accurate reporter, which I would not be at all sure of.

     

    probably even a simple 'Export Movie to iTunes’ would make me happy

     

    Automator?

     

    For feature requests:

     

    iPhoto Menu -> Provide iPhoto Feedback

  • 4. Re: Media solution?
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,645 points)

    Even a 'send to iTunes' option would be slick.

    How slick is this?

     

    iPhoto 9.5

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    iPhoto 9.4.3

     

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    OT

  • 5. Re: Media solution?
    trevc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Too bad they don't have that for video as opposed to just slide shows.

     

    At one point people complained as iTunes became bloatware and even just recently they just broke off iBooks on the desktop but they all need to be connected.

     

    You'd wonder if a better approach would be to have an iMediaCentre with add on modules for books, video, music, etc. as they all connect to one iTunes store, they all have to seemlessly talk when iTunes syncs to iOS devices, etc., etc.  

     

    And ... they could then open up an API for 3rd party developers to create solutions that may fit individual requirements.

  • 6. Re: Media solution?
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,645 points)

    Too bad they don't have that for video as opposed to just slide shows.

    Try this with one of the videos to see if it produces what you need:

     

    1 - export the video out of iPhoto via File ➙ Export ➙ Slideshow selecting the size that would fit your needs best:

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  • 7. Re: Media solution?
    trevc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks

     

    I really don't do a lot of slideshows.  I'm really interested in a easy solution getting 'camera' video from iPhoto into iTunes where it can then be consumed by AppleTV, etc.   This is the pain point.

  • 8. Re: Media solution?
    trevc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Actually the Slideshow export surprisingly works, but then it messes with the file (let alone not intuitive to a user).   I had a 'vertical' video taken with my iPhone and it just squishes it into a landscape video.

     

    There's no reason to convert/export it and it's an  unneeded step.

     

    I guess I'll have to come up with some other option, maybe automator, etc. as was suggested above.

     

    It might be mute as I'm getting a new Windows machine for Christmas so this antiquated 2007 iMac may get retired as it's so noticeably slower after the Mavericks update.

     

    Thanks for your suggestions but bottomline it seems Apple doesn't even make it easy to get their own (iPhone Movies) into iTunes to be enjoyed by Apple TV / Transfer to iPads, etc., etc.