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  • 1,155. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    j kfrommorgantown Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    There is no VERTICAL ruler.   The horizontal ruler is there but not the vertical.

  • 1,156. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,645 points)

    We know it was spotted early and often.

     

    Peter

  • 1,157. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,645 points)

    The search tool has grown more and more erratic, especially for finding updater files. The software updates are a particularly badly designed set of pages. Someone's poorly thought through idea that visual is better.

     

    I've thought of doing screen recordings of what happens when you try to find or negotiate Apple's increasingly awful efforts. That would be the easy part and demonstrate just how badly it is working.

     

    But then would come the difficult part. Getting anyone at Apple to even look. If you have undeniable evidence, they then label you a non-believer and walk away.

     

    Exactly that just happened yesterday when I showed a small sampling of the flaws in Pages 5, and the App Store feedback, to an Apple rep who was proclaiming what a wonderful and popular upgrade it is.

     

    Peter

  • 1,158. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    robogobo Level 2 Level 2 (290 points)

    And I guess you were being your usual polite, mature self while you showed off these flaws.  I'm sure he walked away because of your undeniable evidence, and not because of your presentation style.

    PeterBreis0807 wrote:

     

    The search tool has grown more and more erratic, especially for finding updater files. The software updates are a particularly badly designed set of pages. Someone's poorly thought through idea that visual is better.

     

    I've thought of doing screen recordings of what happens when you try to find or negotiate Apple's increasingly awful efforts. That would be the easy part and demonstrate just how badly it is working.

     

    But then would come the difficult part. Getting anyone at Apple to even look. If you have undeniable evidence, they then label you a non-believer and walk away.

     

    Exactly that just happened yesterday when I showed a small sampling of the flaws in Pages 5, and the App Store feedback, to an Apple rep who was proclaiming what a wonderful and popular upgrade it is.

     

    Peter

  • 1,159. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    jonr49 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    When you talk to Applecare, the people are not programmers. They, in majority, don't use pages (or numbers etc) for 'real' work. So they have no idea what a 'mail merge' for example is. They are nice people and know how to fix stuff but they can't feedback

    The frustration is that we can't talk to the idiots who designed Pages 5 (who probably use MS Word for their private and business work)

    Putting stuff on 'feedback' is probably a waste of time (although I've done it).

    And although I'd like to go back, this downgrade does not allow you to do this without losing everything done since the change unless you copy every new file (about 500 in my case) to an external drive.

     

    If it wasnt going to make my MacBook Pro even slower than Mavericks has already done, I'd load up MS Office right now.

  • 1,160. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,645 points)

    Sorry robogobo

     

    Was that you?

     

    Should have recognised the don't know, don't want to know.

     

    Peter

  • 1,161. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    vitessa Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I tried different things out and did a lot of experimenting bit with Pages and ePub:

     

    When exporting a larger document that I prepared for the epub-format (with images and text) as an .epub-file I get an error message like this: „There were too much images. A lot of them were not exported“ (I translated the error message to English). What’s this for a crap of information? What images were not exported? Why weren’t they exported?

     

    I made another test and exported a larger pages-Document to .epub-format. I compared the different Pages-versions and how they handle with .epub. The results were:

     

    • original file size (.pages-document): 46 MB
    • .epub-document exported from Pages 4.2: 12 MB
    • .epub-document exported from Pages 4.3: 64 MB
    • .epub-document exported from Pages 5: 117 MB

     

    It has already been getting worse from Pages 4.2 to Pages 4.3. The problem is the size of the embedded images. Exporting from Pages 4.2 to .epub was acceptable, but the export to .epub in Pages 5 is definitely worthless, in my test it produces a file-size, that is 10x larger. I have to look for another solution.

     

    Does anybody have experiences in creating .epub-files with Nisus Writer? Is that a good way?

  • 1,162. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    vitessa Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    vitessa wrote:

     

    • .epub-document exported from Pages 5: 117 MB

     

    It's getting ridiculous:

     

    After using „Reduze file-size“ in Pages 5 the exported epub will be even larger. It increases up to 121 MB…

  • 1,163. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    robogobo Level 2 Level 2 (290 points)

    Well, if your caustic attitude on these forums is any evidence, I can infer plenty.  Why should I assume you behaved any more maturely when discussing the same issue with an Apple rep?  You really expect us to believe he just walked away because you presented clear objective evidence without your typical snide remarks punctuating every point you made?  That is why you will not achieve any results the way you argue.  People will just walk away.

  • 1,164. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    PollyFK Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Can anyone tell me why I can't unsubscribe to this discussion which has veered tragically off course from its original stated purpose? 

     

    I changed my settings to receive no emails and now I get emails that look like this:

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  • 1,165. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    crumvoc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You kids!  Go to  your room!

     

    Here is the "tale of the tape":

     

    App store Pages 5 ratings

     

    1 - 2 stars     71.4%

    3 stars      6.1%

    4-5 stars     22.2%

     

    What more needs to be said?

  • 1,166. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,645 points)

    robogobo wrote:

     

    Well, if your caustic attitude on these forums is any evidence, I can infer plenty.  Why should I assume you behaved any more maturely when discussing the same issue with an Apple rep?  You really expect us to believe he just walked away because you presented clear objective evidence without your typical snide remarks punctuating every point you made?  That is why you will not achieve any results the way you argue.  People will just walk away.

     

    Actually it happened after he came up to me because I was spending so much time in Pages 5 trying to resolve problems from users here.

     

    When I responded to his upbeat "Checking the great new features in Pages?" by saying I was actually trying to work out the bugs and missing features.

     

    His response was robogobo like "Well Apple has had to completely write Pages from the ground up, yada yada…"

     

    When I pointed to the screen and said "Have you actually looked at it?" He immediately and suddenly lost interest.

     

    I have been an Apple customer for 29 years but never drank the KoolAid.

     

    Now there is a newer younger generation that thinks of it as Mother's milk. Sadly they really don't know that much, but think they do and that everything is a matter of opinion.

     

    It isn't, but they will never know because they aren't going to look.

     

    Peter

  • 1,167. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,645 points)

    crumvoc wrote:

     

    You kids!  Go to  your room!

     

    Here is the "tale of the tape":

     

    App store Pages 5 ratings

     

    1 - 2 stars     71.4%

    3 stars      6.1%

    4-5 stars     22.2%

     

    What more needs to be said?

     

    Previous reply got deleted.

     

    So here we go again.

     

    58.9% of those are one star which by the App Store score is "I hate it".

     

    Due to the averaging effect it only takes a few 5s to swamp a lot of 1s.

     

    I note those 5s are very vague, non specific, just a bit of gushing "Wow", "It's terrific" etc.

     

    The 1s go into detail and as they are the more recent reviews seem to be after people have actually used it.

     

    Peter

  • 1,168. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    linda2009 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Speaking of the MAS, with iWork in mind, the MAS shows me that Pages, Numbers, and Keynote are now $19.99, not free?  And, it is showing this for the New Versions.

     

    Peter, does the MAS show you the iWork Apps as FREE?

     

    Mavericks still shows as Free.  Are the iWork apps only free if you have Mavericks?  I've never installed Mavs.  But, I do have iWork installed.

     

    When it was first released, I saw that iWork was free, but I did not download or install it.

  • 1,169. Re: Pages 5 features checklist
    j kfrommorgantown Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    crumvoc IDAHO

     

    Not shure what you're looking at.  But your numbers are totally off.  1,122 one stars vs 360 five stars.... doesn't bode well for Pages

     

    Here's what the TALE OF THE TAPE actually says:

     

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