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Q: sync without iCloud?

After I have installed Mountain Lion, I have had a number of sync issues via iTunes and for a while I thought these were the same reasons I could not sync my notes from my iPhone with the fancy new application on my Macbook.....until I came across this article informing me that it is no longer supported in Mountain Lion(!!!!): http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4191  (relevant part half way down under Syncing Notes with iTunes and OS X Mountain Lion v10.8)

 

I am a traditionalist when it comes to privacy and data security. I like to keep my data on my hardware behind firewall, only upload data onto the web that I genuinly want to share with others (...even to the point of using POP mail account). I have no intention to use iCloud (it seems I am not alone in this, sure you all read the comments by Steve Wozniak http://www.techradar.com/news/networking/routers-storage/apple-co-founder-thinks -the-cloud-will-be-horrendous-1091188).

 

The way things go, I will end up with 6 different Mac devices at home that will stop talking to each other unless I feed all the data into the cloud.

 

Does anyone know a way to sync everything just on your home network, without having to upload stuff to the web? Why cannot we have our own homeCloud? Any suggestions welcome (including from Apple)......Hope I will not have to abandon my Mac devices and consider (dare I even say) Windows!?

MacBook Air (13-inch Late 2010), OS X Mountain Lion, iPhone 4 with latest IOS

Posted on Aug 11, 2012 6:57 AM

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  • by Diego arg,

    Diego arg Diego arg Nov 14, 2013 6:24 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 6:24 AM in response to Csound1

    is true that without internet connection you cant synchronise contacts and calendars between a computer and iPhone although these are connected by usb cable?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 6:26 AM in response to Diego arg
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    Nov 14, 2013 6:26 AM in response to Diego arg

    Yes, you can't sync Contacts and Calendars via a cable anymore.

  • by Diego arg,

    Diego arg Diego arg Nov 14, 2013 6:41 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 6:41 AM in response to Csound1

    What solution provides apple in case you do not have internet and you need to synchronise calendars  between computer and iphone?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 6:41 AM in response to Diego arg
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    Nov 14, 2013 6:41 AM in response to Diego arg

    I have no idea what you are asking, or even if you are asking a question.

     

    There is no cable sync in Mavericks.

  • by Diego arg,

    Diego arg Diego arg Nov 14, 2013 6:47 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 6:47 AM in response to Csound1

    Before it was possible. Then this has to be considered a downgrade?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 6:51 AM in response to Diego arg
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    Nov 14, 2013 6:51 AM in response to Diego arg

    Call it what you like, it is a fact.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Nov 14, 2013 12:51 PM in response to Diego arg
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    Nov 14, 2013 12:51 PM in response to Diego arg

    Diego arg and Csound1(we have crossed swords before)

     

    Your are both right! From my other conversations on other subjects on "http://discussions........" Csound1 has told me that if I like you Diego don't like what Apple are doing and speek out against it then ".....are standing in the way of progress......."

     

    So yes if you want to do things the Apple way then you have to use "iCloud" but if history repates then we have to belive that iCloud will go the way of MobileMe.  So if you want to do things in ways the are not supported by Apple and not move with Apple then you have to find your owen way of doing things in this you have the flowing options:

     

    1) Work to keep up with the way Apple want you to do things.

    2) Do your owen programming and program your owen calendar, addressbook and syn'c systems

    3) Run your own server at home

    4) Use a 3rd party like Google, Yahoo or some one else

     

    Options 2 and 4 mean egnoring any settings that may be part of the OS

     

    P.S. sorry for the spelling I am dyslex..  Sorry some people point out missing details in my posts I am sorry for these missing details but being dyslex... I often tack short cuts.

     

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  • by Z001,

    Z001 Z001 Nov 14, 2013 1:15 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:15 PM in response to Csound1

    ....and nobody at Apple remembers this anymore....it's a fact.

     

    441_30_1984-Apple-launches-the-Mac-with-a-1-5m-commercial-aired-during-the-Superbowl small.jpeg

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 1:28 PM in response to Z001
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:28 PM in response to Z001

    I fail to see the relevance but thanks.

  • by Diego arg,

    Diego arg Diego arg Nov 14, 2013 1:34 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:34 PM in response to TopSteve

    Csound1 tells you that you have to like or not!?

    I think that usb and iCloud are two different things and one thing dont need override the other.

    Progress is improve the lives of user, not forcing users to use a service that does not expect the lack of connection or the user don’t want to use.

    I also like apple how do things but in this case Im disappointed. This “New progress functionality” can be good but don’t replace the usb connection. So I think this is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

    I think that if apple makes worse things, users need to make known those things to make it better and not hide them with blind fanaticisms.

    When I bought my iphone the first thing I liked its just that, the sync cable sync, easy, and now “with the new progress” I can’t don’t that, although it is the easiest.

    neither alternative its better… (I need to make my own program??!) this its not a solution.

    When I bought my iphone usb connection was possible. Not now.

  • by Diego arg,

    Diego arg Diego arg Nov 14, 2013 1:50 PM in response to Z001
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:50 PM in response to Z001

    I see the relevance Z001... but I dont have a lots of points under my avatar...

    With this comments I never will receive a lots of point hahaha..! probably I should defend Apple's right or not.

  • by Z001,

    Z001 Z001 Nov 14, 2013 1:56 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:56 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1           Far from anything

     

    ...that's exactly what seems to be the problem....

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 2:34 PM in response to Z001
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    Nov 14, 2013 2:34 PM in response to Z001

    How cute you are

  • by jeclark2006,

    jeclark2006 jeclark2006 Jan 14, 2014 5:25 PM in response to Diego arg
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    Jan 14, 2014 5:25 PM in response to Diego arg

    Havng recently run into this problem (because I didn't update my OS's for a long time...), I have no idea why anyone would 'defend' the iCloud only syncing method. Why even if one has no personal problem with syncing via the Cloud, that they would also support those who don't want to pass their 'personal data' through the net.

     

    After the last 6 months of revelations about the NSA snoopage, why any one would think that Apple's 'Cloud' is any more secure than Google or Yahoo.

     

    And even if they are not worried about some dark governmental agencies, but say... a 'hacker' breach of data, ala Target.

     

    Why is this not priority of Apple to 'correct', since syncing form phone to personal computer involved no 'external' Internet site.

     

    And remember, the NSA takes special intrest in 'encrypted' messages, so sending yourself an encrypted version of data via email or placing the encrypted package on a 'cloud' account, more of a 'red' flag than passing all your skidmarked underwear photos for all to view. (or whatever you don't want the 'world' to see...).

     

    Of course there is no telling Apple about such complaints, since Apple Designers know all, see all, and can't be told that their decisions are 'wrong'... unless the person complaining is Steve Jobs, who of course is no longer capable of spuring Apple Employees into action.

  • by jeclark2006,

    jeclark2006 jeclark2006 Jan 14, 2014 5:34 PM in response to Csound1
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    Jan 14, 2014 5:34 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1... the reference to the 1984 'ad', was in direct reference to the book, '1984' which depicted a state where the privacy of 'citizens' was non-existant, and Big Brother 'knew all'.

     

    The 'cloud' can be seen to support Big Brother, as the last 6 months of NSA revelations have shown. Google and Yahoo, and most likely any cloud system such as the one Apple uses to store information, can be 'hacked' and the data transmitted to others, without the consent of the 'owner'.

     

    The US Constitution specifically mentions 'secure in one's papers' as a 'right'. However, apparently, the current Federal Law seems to think of 'e-paper' as not real paper and they have every 'right' to view, analyze, and perhaps act on anything found, with a mere fig leaf of 'court' order.

     

    There are two ways to prevent this sort of thing 1) change the law which allows the government to snoop Internet traffic and sites, 2) don't put the data anywhere on the Internet.

     

    Which is easier for the 'common man'... or in the case of the image... common woman heaving a sledge hammer...

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