leonard55

Q: iPhoto 9.5 dropped Mac-to-Mac sharing?

I just installed the latest OSX Mavericks update and iPhoto '11 9.5 and it appears that the old Mac-to-Mac sharing is gone! I don't see a Sharing tab on Preferences any more and none of our other Macs running iPhoto are listed in the sidebar.

 

If it's really gone, I wonder what Apple expects people to use instead? iCloud doesn't do the job because it's only the last 1000 photos (at best), so you can't see old photos.

iPhoto '11, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 4:06 PM

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  • by JohnWeston,

    JohnWeston JohnWeston Nov 5, 2013 9:57 PM in response to gattomatto
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    Nov 5, 2013 9:57 PM in response to gattomatto

    Well, that's not actually true — I've heard from many sources over the years that the folks at Apple absolutely do pay attention to their feedback channels. But what's really key here is that this forum is not one of those channels; you really need to fill out the appropriate feedback form to get your issue across their desks. They prioritize based on the volume of feedback associated with a particular concern, so even duplicating others' reports is really important.

  • by gattomatto,

    gattomatto gattomatto Nov 6, 2013 1:37 AM in response to leonard55
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    Nov 6, 2013 1:37 AM in response to leonard55

    There is also another problem:

     

    YOU CAN NEITHER SHARE A LIBRARY VIA FILE SHARING!

     

    In facts the iPhoto library format is unstable, it changes at each SW release. Hence, you should have the same version of iPhoto on all your Mac's (I have 4 of them and just the last one can use the last OS version).

     

    It is quite irritating that Apple use a propietary format for the iPhoto library (HIGH RISK TO LOOSE YOUR PHOTOS AND THE ASSOCIATED INFORMATION), but moreover the format is not compatible even with different versions of iPhoto.

     

    I'm seriously considering to search an alternative application that use just the file system to store the photos. Less features, but, more security, more stable and sharing is trivial by means of file sharing.

     

    I hope that Apple come back to consider the basics of how an application should be made.

     

    PS: I use a mac from 1986!

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Nov 6, 2013 1:49 AM in response to gattomatto
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    Nov 6, 2013 1:49 AM in response to gattomatto

    iPhoto uses the file system to store the Photos. If the database file goes down you might lose the information you added in iPhoto, but you won't lose the information in the original photos. Using the file system is easy, simple to understand. But is very limited and not lossless. iPhoto is an excellent example of how a photo manager should be made.

  • by rudibarani,

    rudibarani rudibarani Nov 6, 2013 2:16 PM in response to leonard55
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    Nov 6, 2013 2:16 PM in response to leonard55

    I also miss direct sharing in the local network. Why upload all pictures you just want to transfer to another database into iCloud? Even if I export them to a folder and import them over AFP into the other iPhoto library, this adds an unnecessary step that I have to attend waiting for the first export to finish... This is really a step back!

  • by Apple Iceman,

    Apple Iceman Apple Iceman Nov 6, 2013 11:06 PM in response to rudibarani
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    Nov 6, 2013 11:06 PM in response to rudibarani

    As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I was looking forward to an upgrade where the shared photos across the network were original PLUS modifications. At the moment one can only export original or current.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Nov 6, 2013 11:16 PM in response to Apple Iceman
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    Nov 6, 2013 11:16 PM in response to Apple Iceman

    You can do that only with iPhoto Library Manager.

  • by dmarnel,

    dmarnel dmarnel Nov 7, 2013 6:05 AM in response to leonard55
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    Nov 7, 2013 6:05 AM in response to leonard55

    Ok, so does anyone know of an alternative to iPhoto that does allow sharing over a home network?

     

    I'm so glad I sold all of my Apple stock when I did!

  • by Oliver Saunders,

    Oliver Saunders Oliver Saunders Nov 12, 2013 3:03 AM in response to leonard55
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    Nov 12, 2013 3:03 AM in response to leonard55

    Completely agree. Was an excellent way of moving photos between different libraries on differnet machines and ad hoc sharing on the network. To be honest, I have Aperture (using same lib) and it was the single reason for sticking with iPhoto. Very annoyed. Have reported via feedback for all the good it will do... Grrrrrrrrrrr

     

    PS Have listed on the dev bugreporter. Not entirely sure what sort of answer I will get (if at all that is)...

     

    And anyone saying - just use PhotoStream - really has no idea what this feature did...

     

    Simply example of why it 'just worked':

    "Fred is at my house with his laptop on my network. He is not a 'techy'. He took 10 picts yesterday on his camera of all our kids at the park. He wants to share the original images (full def) taken with his SLR. He has iphoto open and already has 'share' enabled. All I do is click on his shared library from my machine's iphoto, select the images and drag to mine. Simples! Can it essentially be done with PS - yes. Is it this easy when scaled to over 20-30 friends from school - no.

     

    Not entirely convinced I need to sell my shares over it though ;-))

     

    Just my 2c

  • by nickos5561,

    nickos5561 nickos5561 Nov 15, 2013 5:54 PM in response to leonard55
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    Nov 15, 2013 5:54 PM in response to leonard55

    Apple please please add back home sharing into iPhoto!! I dont want to share my photos over the internet! Its not secure and I dont want some freak at the NSA looking at my pics!!!

     

    thankyou!

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Nov 15, 2013 7:40 PM in response to nickos5561
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    Nov 15, 2013 7:40 PM in response to nickos5561

    Apple isn't here, just users like yourself.  Send a feature request to Apple via http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html.

     

    OT

  • by jbjoret,

    jbjoret jbjoret Nov 16, 2013 8:01 AM in response to Old Toad
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    Nov 16, 2013 8:01 AM in response to Old Toad

    I gave feedback to Apple with the hope that they will consider it, but I am not very optimistic about this. They removed the Scanner sharing function in Mavericks the same way, I gave them feedback and the response I received was just. We removed this fonction permanantly :'( this was the only way to use a scanner for many Macs.

  • by adrinux,

    adrinux adrinux Nov 20, 2013 4:30 AM in response to leonard55
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    Nov 20, 2013 4:30 AM in response to leonard55

    Oh no. Was really pleased to discover they brought back really flexible printing. Been exporting and using the clunky Canon software that came with my printer for the last couple of years. Now I discover teh mac-to-mac sharing feature is gone. All our photos go into iPhoto on my account. My wife pulled photos she wanted to use over to our ageing G4 using the bonjour shareing. So now what? The G4 runs OSX 10.5, so no iCloud!

     

    Pretty much left with exporting and using file sharing I suppose. Grrr.

     

    What's really annoying is the way features like this are dropped without warning.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Nov 20, 2013 8:40 AM in response to adrinux
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    Nov 20, 2013 8:40 AM in response to adrinux

    If the two Macs are on the same LAN you can setup you wife so she can log into your Mac where you can put copies of the phtoos you want to print in a folder on the Desktop.

     

    Or use Dropbox to move photos from your Mac to hers.  Dropbox is free up to 2GB,

     

    OR do the right thing and get her a new Mac.

  • by adrinux,

    adrinux adrinux Nov 21, 2013 6:21 AM in response to Old Toad
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    Nov 21, 2013 6:21 AM in response to Old Toad

    I'm perfectly familiar with a number of ways to copy files across the network @Old Toad

     

    Doesn't beat the convenience of the iPhoto sharing that existed before: share the whole library on one machine and the user on the other machine was able to browse the whole library and copy any photos they wanted. The only thing required from me was to start iPhoto!

     

    Having to select photos to be copied before and export them? Far more inconvenient. This smacks of 'lets make this work like iOS'. Cloud only, pretend the filesystem doesn't exist, pretend the local network doesn't exist.

     

    Buying her a new mac would enable iCloud I suppose, but I'd echo everyone else's comments. iPhoto library is too big to fit entirely in an iCloud account. We're still on ADSL here so upload is SLOW. Even download is way slower than the gigabit ethernet that connects the computers in the LAN.

     

    Absolutely nothing is there to replicate the convenience and speed of the bonjour based iPhoto sharing that Apple just removed.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Nov 21, 2013 8:58 AM in response to adrinux
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    Nov 21, 2013 8:58 AM in response to adrinux

    Doesn't beat the convenience of the iPhoto sharing that existed before:

    I wholeheartitly agree.  Was just giving possible workarounds until we an convince Apple to bring it back:  http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html.  Don't hold your breath but keep requesting that it be brought back as we all will.

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