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  • nicoladie Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 21, 2013 5:35 PM (in response to Loner T)

    Yes, the recovery disk partition was introduced after Snow Leopard to allow you to install/recover without using an external DVD disk or thumb-drive.

     

    It doesn't mean that you cannot add the recovery disk partition in Snow Leopard without reformating it.

     

    That is, in Snow Leopard, you can only install OSX using an external disk.  But you are not installing Snow Leopard any more.  That is why when you install OSX later than Snow Leopard, you can use the recovery disk partition within your internal drive to install without needing an external disk.

     

    Because the recovery disk partition is not in your Snow Leopard volume, you have to create it manually.  Then you can install Maverick using the newly created disk partition to install it.

  • Loner T Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 21, 2013 6:03 PM (in response to nicoladie)

    Nicoladie...

     

    If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting...

     

    1. Boot SL.

    2. Run SL Disk Utility. Create two new partitions on the existing disk. So it will end up with 6 partitions (GPT).

    3. Put Recovery partition in one of these two new partitions using the Recovery assistant (assuming it can be run from the SL or try a external USB).

    4. Now install Mavericks on the second newly created partition.

    5. Now you may have a dual boot of SL/Mavericks, if the system boots at all.

     

    Remember BOOTCAMP restrictions. BOOTcamped disks can have only three partitions, OSX, Bootcamp and Recovery.

     

    How do you propose this iMac will work/boot?

     

    Reza wants to probably upgrade to Mavericks, not dual-boot SL/Mavericks.

  • rezaputra Calculating status...
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    Nov 22, 2013 3:33 PM (in response to Loner T)

    Helo!

     

    Sory for late responding. Ok here is the output for fdisk:

    Last login: Sat Nov 23 03:38:41 on console

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$ fdisk

    usage: fdisk [-ieu] [-f mbrboot] [-c cyl -h head -s sect] [-S size] [-r] [-a style] disk

              -i: initialize disk with new MBR

              -u: update MBR code, preserve partition table

              -e: edit MBRs on disk interactively

              -f: specify non-standard MBR template

              -chs: specify disk geometry

              -S: specify disk size

              -r: read partition specs from stdin (implies -i)

              -a: auto-partition with the given style

              -d: dump partition table

              -y: don't ask any questions

              -t: test if disk is partitioned

    `disk' is of the form /dev/rdisk0.

    auto-partition styles:

      boothfs     8Mb boot plus HFS+ root partition (default)

      bootufs     8Mb boot plus UFS root partition

      hfs         Entire disk as one HFS+ partition

      ufs         Entire disk as one UFS partition

      dos         Entire disk as one DOS partition

      raid        Entire disk as one 0xAC partition

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$

     

    This is the output for gpt

    Last login: Sat Nov 23 06:33:28 on ttys000

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$ gpt

    usage: gpt [-rv] [-p nparts] command [options] device ...

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$

     

    Do you have another option than i must delete my BOOTCAMP partition?

    Like defrag my harddisk?

    Because i have a little problem on my DVD drive (u know iMac have **** dvd drive) so i have complicated way to install windows.

     

    Thanks!

  • Loner T Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 22, 2013 4:35 PM (in response to rezaputra)

    Please do not delete any partitions, till other options are exhausted. You may want to also download the recovery assistant (as Nicoladie suggests) to a USB stick, in case that becomes a viable scenario. If I can find a test machine, I would like to duplicate your configuration and see if it can be upgraded from SL to Mavericks.

     

    Apologies for not being clear, can you run the following commands...

     

    sudo gpt -vv show /dev/rdisk0

    sudo fdisk /dev/rdisk0

     

    What version of Bootcamp are you running?


  • nicoladie Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 22, 2013 4:47 PM (in response to Loner T)

    You can simply try using Disk Utility to see if it allows you to create a recovery partition under Snow Leopard.  It really depends on the version of Disk Utility, so you have to try it.  I don't have Snow Leopard any more, so I cannot tell you.

     

    The basic idea is that Snow Leopard requires an external disk to install, but Lion and later doesn't need an external disk to install. It uses the recovery partition to install.


    The same for fixing your disk if anything goes wrong. Snow Leopard requires you to use an external disk to fix your broken disk.  But Lion and later allows you to use the recovery disk partition to fix it, eliminating the cumbersome step of finding an external disk to fix it or install or reinstall OSX.

     

    As long as you can create a recovery partition on your disk, I think you can install Maverick that way.

     

    If you don't want to install Maverick from the internal recovery disk partition, you can install it using an external disk (just like Snow Leopard).  Just follow these instructions:

     

    https://support.apple.com/kb/ht5911

  • Loner T Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 23, 2013 3:42 AM (in response to nicoladie)

    From http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718 (it has a reference to HT5911 as well...)

     

    • Your storage device must have at least 13 GB available (after formatting) to install OS X Lion or later and a Recovery partition.
    • These steps erase and reformat the storage device. This article instructs you on setting up a storage device to use the GUID partition scheme and the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format, which are required to install OS X and a Recovery partition on your external storage device. You should back up any important files that are on the device to a different drive.
    • This procedure installs a version of OS X that is compatible with the Mac it was created with. Using this OS X system with a different Mac model may produce unpredictable results.
    • Your computer's serial number is sent to Apple as part of this process to help authenticate your request to download and install OS X Lion.
  • rezaputra Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 23, 2013 7:22 AM (in response to Loner T)

    Here is the output for

    sudo gpt -vv show /dev/rdisk0

    sudo fdisk /dev/rdisk0

     

    Last login: Sat Nov 23 22:22:00 on console

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$ sudo gpt -vv show /dev/rdisk0

    Password:

    Sorry, try again.

    Password:

    gpt show: unable to open device '/dev/rdisk0': No such file or directory

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$ sudo gpt -vv show /dev/rdisk0

    gpt show: unable to open device '/dev/rdisk0': No such file or directory

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$ sudo fdisk /dev/rdisk0

    Disk: /dev/rdisk0          geometry: 60801/255/63 [976773168 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE    0   0   2 -   25 127  14 [         1 -     409639] <Unknown ID>

    2: AF   25 127  15 - 1023   3  21 [    409640 -  818359360] HFS+       

    *3: 07 1023  98  61 - 1023  80  15 [ 819032064 -  157741056] HPFS/QNX/AUX

    4: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$

     

    my Bootcamp is 3.0.4 version


  • rezaputra Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 23, 2013 7:23 AM (in response to nicoladie)

    Is disk defrag will usefull for this problem?

  • Loner T Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 23, 2013 8:06 AM (in response to rezaputra)

    You can run command df -h to check for free space. Defragementation on the OS X side is typically not required, but an erase/install can help. Windows side may need it, but as yet with your fdisk output I cannot see your bootcamp side. Seeing your GPT table would help.

     

    There is a GNU utility gdisk (- http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/?source=dlp ) that you can try. Once you install it, you can run the following command. Sample output is attached.

     

    sudo gdisk -l /dev/rdisk0

     

    WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss

    or the deletion of important system files. Please double-check your

    typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information.

     

    To proceed, enter your password, or type Ctrl-C to abort.

     

    Password:

    GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.8

     

    Warning: Devices opened with shared lock will not have their

    partition table automatically reloaded!

    Partition table scan:

      MBR: hybrid

      BSD: not present

      APM: not present

      GPT: present

     

    Found valid GPT with hybrid MBR; using GPT.

    Disk /dev/rdisk0: 1465149168 sectors, 698.6 GiB

    Logical sector size: 512 bytes

    Disk identifier (GUID): 3B00A07E-2489-49E2-8A2E-13143B3F0933

    Partition table holds up to 128 entries

    First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 1465149134

    Partitions will be aligned on 8-sector boundaries

    Total free space is 3341 sectors (1.6 MiB)

     

    Number  Start (sector)    End (sector)  Size       Code  Name

       1              40          409639   200.0 MiB   EF00  EFI System Partition

       2          409640       963879591   459.4 GiB   AF00  Customer

       3       963879592       965149127   619.9 MiB   AB00  Recovery HD

       4       965150720      1465147391   238.4 GiB   0700  BOOTCAMP

  • rezaputra Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 24, 2013 10:31 AM (in response to nicoladie)

    I will try using recovery assistant from my office iMac. So i just put my flashdisk (Recovery Disk) and installing maverick?

  • rezaputra Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 24, 2013 10:34 AM (in response to Loner T)

    Ok here is the output:

    Last login: Sun Nov 24 22:50:11 on console

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$ df -h

    Filesystem      Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on

    /dev/disk0s2   390Gi  355Gi   35Gi    92%    /

    devfs          112Ki  112Ki    0Bi   100%    /dev

    map -hosts       0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /net

    map auto_home    0Bi    0Bi    0Bi   100%    /home

    /dev/disk0s3    75Gi   68Gi  7.6Gi    90%    /Volumes/BOOTCAMP

    /dev/disk2s1   7.5Gi  1.1Gi  6.3Gi    16%    /Volumes/Backup

    /dev/disk1s1    74Gi   46Gi   28Gi    63%    /Volumes/REZA IPOD

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$ sudo gdisk -l /dev/rdisk0

    Password:

    GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.8

     

     

    Warning: Devices opened with shared lock will not have their

    partition table automatically reloaded!

    Partition table scan:

      MBR: hybrid

      BSD: not present

      APM: not present

      GPT: present

     

     

    Found valid GPT with hybrid MBR; using GPT.

    Disk /dev/rdisk0: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB

    Logical sector size: 512 bytes

    Disk identifier (GUID): 00002BB2-5789-0000-CB0A-0000E32D0000

    Partition table holds up to 128 entries

    First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 976773134

    Partitions will be aligned on 8-sector boundaries

    Total free space is 263085 sectors (128.5 MiB)

     

     

    Number  Start (sector)    End (sector)  Size       Code  Name

       1              40          409639   200.0 MiB   EF00  EFI system partition

       2          409640       818768999   390.2 GiB   AF00  Customer

       3       819032064       976773119   75.2 GiB    0700  BOOTCAMP

    Reza-Putras-iMac:~ rezaputra$

     

    I dont have any idea for this. I see that many reccomendation to use Clean install? Is that another way? like Fresh install... i will try using my 8GB flashdisk for recovery disk and installing maverick.

  • rezaputra Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 24, 2013 10:35 AM (in response to Loner T)

    Is my Bootcamp partition is the main problem for this installation?

  • nicoladie Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 24, 2013 10:35 AM (in response to rezaputra)

    Yes, that's the simplest way to install it

  • rezaputra Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 24, 2013 10:38 AM (in response to nicoladie)

    Ok i will try. Thanks for help!

  • Loner T Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 24, 2013 11:13 AM (in response to rezaputra)

    No, Bootcamp is not your problem. You have 35GB on disk0s2. Mavericks is unable to shrink /dev/disk0s2 to build you a Recovery partition.

     

    If you try to shrink your OS X (SL - /dev/disk0s2 ) partition by say 5GB in Disk Utility, does it give you an error?

     

    This is partially your issue... "Total free space is 263085 sectors (128.5 MiB)"

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