Steve Hadeen

Q: albums in projects

I'm obviously not understanding something....I set up a folder for a vacation trip.  Then I set up 2 projects within that folder-week 1 and week 2.  I then set up albums for each event within week 1 and week 2 projects.  Once my images are in the albums, I don't need the original project they were imported into from a camera.  How can I make the images in the album the originals?  When I delete the project initially imported into from a camera, it also deletes the images in the album so obviously the images in the album are versions, not originals.  Is there a way to move originals out of a project into albums so I can then delete the project?  Hope I'm making sense here...

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Nov 28, 2013 12:02 AM

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  • by léonie,Solvedanswer

    léonie léonie Nov 28, 2013 12:36 AM in response to Steve Hadeen
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    Nov 28, 2013 12:36 AM in response to Steve Hadeen
    Once my images are in the albums, I don't need the original project they were imported into from a camera.  How can I make the images in the album the originals?

     

    You need the images in the projects, Steve. Don't delete an image from a project, if you want to use that image in an album or somewhere else.

     

    Your albums do not actually store the images, they only group the images contained in the projects and present a different view of the images in the projects.  Projects contain images and albums use them, but do not duplicate them.  You can add the image to many albums without needing more storage. An album is just a catalogue or index with references to images stored elsewhere.

     

     

    When I delete the project initially imported into from a camera, it also deletes the images in the album so obviously the images in the album are versions, not originals.

     

    Each image (and all versions of this image)  are contained in exactly one project, and if you delete a version of an image from its "home" project, it will be removed from all other albums, books, screensavers, .. that are using this image version.

     

    I think, you are misunderstanding the concept of version and original.

    Both, albums and projects, will show you versions of images in your Aperture library.

    When you import an image, Aperture will file away the original image file and create a current version of the image. The thumbnails in the browser and the viewer will display what your current mage version is looking like. All versions of an image are linked to the original image file, that will be needed when you are making adjustments. There is no special place in Aperture, where the originals are shown in the interface. The thumbnaisl show the versions.

     

    You may want to have a look at Kirby Krieger's nice summary on libray items:

                     The Well-Trod Path: a Beginner's Guide to how Aperture's major parts inter-relate

    and Frank Caggiano's                  Deleting version also deleted the master

     

    Regards

    Léonie

     


  • by Steve Hadeen,

    Steve Hadeen Steve Hadeen Nov 28, 2013 12:06 PM in response to Steve Hadeen
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    Nov 28, 2013 12:06 PM in response to Steve Hadeen

    Thanks Léonie. Reading the Well-trod path clarified other questions I would have asked.  So I do understand that the versions created from the original are miniscule that point to the original and not full resolution copies.  Makes sense now.  Thanks again.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 28, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Steve Hadeen
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    Nov 28, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Steve Hadeen

    You are welcome.

  • by Steve Hadeen,

    Steve Hadeen Steve Hadeen Nov 28, 2013 3:40 PM in response to Steve Hadeen
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    Nov 28, 2013 3:40 PM in response to Steve Hadeen

    Another quick question if you know...I'm assuming that even if I rearrange (better organization) my referenced images on my external drive that it will not cause problems with aperture folders, projects and albums still being "connected" to those images or able to "find" those images.  Is that a correct assumption?  Not sure I'm using correct terminology but hopefully you know what I mean.

  • by Najinsky,Helpful

    Najinsky Najinsky Nov 28, 2013 5:33 PM in response to Steve Hadeen
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:33 PM in response to Steve Hadeen

    Steve, you are usually free to move the hard drive folder hierarchy around; move folders, rename folders, nest folders, move images to different folders, etc. Aperture keeps links to the original files (it doesn't keep links to folders) and so long as the files stay on the same disk, they can be anywhere on that disk.

     

    This works because each file has a unique identifier that is independent of it's folder location when used with the current Mac file systems so it is always able to locate the file using this unique ID.

     

    However, if your extrnal drive is formatted as FAT32 (for using with windows for example), this doesn't produce the same unique identifier and so a dependancy on the files path gets created.In this situation, if you move an image or folder on a FAT partition, Aperture will lose it's link to the file and will display a badge with a small yellow triangle alert sign. But even this is quite easy to resolve. You select the files with broken links in Aperture and use the "Locate Referenced Files" menu option to show Aperture where the files are now located and it re-links the files.

     

    Andy

  • by Steve Hadeen,

    Steve Hadeen Steve Hadeen Nov 28, 2013 9:58 PM in response to Najinsky
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:58 PM in response to Najinsky

    Sounds like I'm good to go then.  My external drive is formatted Mac OS Extended. Thanks for the answer.