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  • Alberto Ravasio Level 4 Level 4 (3,160 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 11:26 AM (in response to MacGuido)

    I use an SD card, where I installed Mountain Lion for testing purposes. I can choose which OS to start as Csound1 explained.

     

    On the Mountain Lion's SD card I also edited the /etc/fstab to exclude the automount of the internal hard disk, to avoid misuse of the main OS.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 11:28 AM (in response to MacGuido)

    MacGuido wrote:

     

    Yes of course you are right Csound1, but before upgrading my mac pro worked like a charm, then dramatically slowed down as soon as I made the upgrade.

    Then I would be investigating why?

     

    Make a new user account, make it an admin and then reboot (don't just log out) into it, how is the performance under it?

  • MacGuido Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 11:30 AM (in response to Csound1)

    This is a good suggestion, I will try that and let you know..

  • w7ox Level 4 Level 4 (2,385 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 11:34 AM (in response to Alberto Ravasio)

    Alberto Ravasio wrote:

     

    I did a clean install on my MacBook Pro. I have not noticed significant difference in speed compared to the previous Mountain Lion.

    I did the update and Mavericks is faster than ML for me.

     

    Phil

  • w7ox Level 4 Level 4 (2,385 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 11:34 AM (in response to MacGuido)

    MacGuido wrote:

     

    No, I mean two different disks, each one with one mavericks, then on startup choose which one to boot.

    Sure. If I back up my Mavericks internal disk to a USB3 external with Carbon Copy Cloner, I can choose which to boot from. And I can boot to either OS X or Win 7 in Bootcamp partition.

     

    Phil

  • Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (107,660 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 12:00 PM (in response to Fabiano215)

    First, back up all data immediately unless you already have a current backup. If you can't back up, stop here. Do not take any of the steps below.

     

    Step 1

     

    This diagnostic procedure will query the log for messages that may indicate a system issue. It changes nothing, and therefore will not, in itself, solve your problem.

     

    If you have more than one user account, these instructions must be carried out as an administrator.

     

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

    syslog -k Sender kernel -k Message CReq 'GPU |hfs: Ru|I/O e|find tok|n Cause: -|NVDA\(|pagin|timed? ?o' | tail | open -ef

    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.

     

    Launch the Terminal application in any of the following ways:

     

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

     

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

     

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.

     

    Paste into the Terminal window (command-V). I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, you may have to press the return key.

     

    The command may take a noticeable amount of time to run. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign (“$”) to appear.

     

    A TextEdit window will open with the output of the command. Normally the command will produce no output, and the window will be empty. If the TextEdit window (not the Terminal window) has anything in it, stop here and post it — the text, please, not a screenshot. The title of the TextEdit window doesn't matter, and you don't need to post that.

     

    Step 2

     

    There are a few other possible causes of generalized slow performance that you can rule out easily.

     

    • Disconnect all non-essential wired peripherals and remove aftermarket expansion cards, if any.
    • Reset the System Management Controller.
    • Run Software Update. If there's a firmware update, install it.
    • If you're booting from an aftermarket SSD, see whether there's a firmware update for it.
    • If you have a portable computer, check the cycle count of the battery. It may be due for replacement.
    • If you have many image or video files on the Desktop with preview icons, move them to another folder.
    • If applicable, uncheck all boxes in the iCloud preference pane. See whether there's any change.
    • Check your keychains in Keychain Access for excessively duplicated items.
    • Boot into Recovery mode, launch Disk Utility, and run Repair Disk.
    • If you have a MacBook Pro with dual graphics, disable automatic graphics switching in the Energy Saverpreference pane for better performance at the cost of shorter battery life.

    Step 3

     

    When you notice the problem, launch the Activity Monitor application in any of the following ways:

     

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

     

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

     

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Activity Monitor in the icon grid.

     

    Select the CPU tab of the Activity Monitor window.

     

    Select All Processes from the View menu or the menu in the toolbar, if not already selected.

     

    Click the heading of the % CPU column in the process table to sort the entries by CPU usage. You may have to click it twice to get the highest value at the top. What is it, and what is the process? Also post the values for User, System, and Idle at the bottom of the window.

     

    Select the Memory tab. What value is shown in the bottom part of the window for Swap used?

     

    Next, select the Disk tab. Post the approximate values shown for Reads in/sec and Writes out/sec (not Reads in andWrites out.)

     

    Step 4

     

    If you have more than one user account, you must be logged in as an administrator to carry out this step.

     

    Launch the Console application in the same way you launched Activity Monitor. Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left. If you don't see that menu, select

    View Show Log List

    from the menu bar.

     

    Select the 50 or so most recent entries in the log. Copy them to the Clipboard by pressing the key combinationcommand-C. Paste into a reply to this message (command-V). You're looking for entries at the end of the log, not at the beginning.

     

    When posting a log extract, be selective. Don't post more than is requested.

    Please do not indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.

    Important: Some personal information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting. That should be easy to do if your extract is not too long.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,895 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 12:02 PM (in response to Fabiano215)

    Unfortunately, I don't see any of the typical red flags that could cause problems. You have a fair number of internet plugins. Can you quantify any specific tasks that are slow? Look at the clock and measure exactly how much time it takes to do something. Quit all of your applications, reboot your machine, and try to measure again. Did the reboot help?

     

    I am thinking that if you are running multiple Office applications constantly, they might be occupying all of your RAM. Then, if you switch applications, the system has to swap RAM in and out. Office is old software and doesn't support any of the modern memory enhancments. If you reboot, don't run Office, and can verify that other applications run at the speed you expect them to, then RAM and Office might be the cause.

  • First_step Calculating status...
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    Nov 29, 2013 12:25 PM (in response to etresoft)

    I find an earlier response by etresoft really upsetting...that we shouldn't start a thread on problems with Mavericks. 

     

    It is forums such as these that have alerted me to the problems I might face if I was so foolish as to update to Mavericks. Also, I recently told a few people who were thinking of Apples to ensure that Mavericks was NOT loaded onto their new machine. Several of them are now looking at Microsoft tablets as a good alternative. I love my MacAir but am not so gifted in computers that i could fix problems that might occur...A family memberfm who is very talented in computers, and who has had Apples for twenty years told me not to upgrade to Mavericks until all the bugs are worked out...which hopefully will happen soon.

     

    He has had people call him from all over the world panic struck on what they are finding with Mavericks. Apple needs to get real here..and at the very least offer refunds to people who have had their hard drives wiped clean thanks to Mavericks.

  • Alberto Ravasio Level 4 Level 4 (3,160 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 1:32 PM (in response to w7ox)

    I usually make clean install when there is a major upgrade. Always did and I will always do, not only with Apple's OSs but with any OSs I worked with. I may be wrong, but I never regretted it.

    It's not said that upgrading over a previous OS is definitely a good idea. Many variables are involved. How the system was used and maintained. How many upgrades were made and so on and so forth. Even on a very good operating system as OS X certainly is.

     

    Apple made a good work to make the transition for the end user as smooth as possible, and most of the time it is true. But even Apple cannot predict everything.

  • R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (13,805 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 1:47 PM (in response to First_step)

    First_step wrote:

    I find an earlier response by etresoft really upsetting...that we shouldn't start a thread on problems with Mavericks. 

    Where did you see such a comment by etresoft? I think you must have misunderstood something.

  • Alberto Ravasio Level 4 Level 4 (3,160 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 1:56 PM (in response to First_step)

    First_step wrote:

     

    Apple needs to get real here..and at the very least offer refunds to people who have had their hard drives wiped clean thanks to Mavericks.

     

    Western Digital you meant?

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,895 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 2:00 PM (in response to First_step)

    First_step wrote:

     

    I find an earlier response by etresoft really upsetting...that we shouldn't start a thread on problems with Mavericks.

    I am sure you misunderstood. The only thing I ever tell people to do along those lines is to never post "me too" replies and then sit and wait for some fix that will never show up. Starting your own thread is exactly what you should be doing. Each problem is different with a different solution.

  • R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (13,805 points)
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    Nov 29, 2013 5:03 PM (in response to First_step)

    First_step wrote:

    Apple needs to get real here..and at the very least offer refunds to people who have had their hard drives wiped clean thanks to Mavericks.

    I'm sure Apple will happily refund the purchase price of Mavericks to anyone who asks for that.

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