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  • 1,710. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    applejpmc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Drew, this follows what I was told.

     

    What I actually want to do is find a way to sync - simply contacts and calandar - but my situation is that I am in a different place and often a different country on different wifi networks every week. I do in the region of 100 flights a year to give an idea of my schedule. I'd really like to know 3 things...

     

    a) is there any way to cable link an iphone and a macbook pro or air to sync? - ie locally sync (if this is the right terminology)

     

    next if this is possible -

     

    b) does it need to be leaving another macbook at home and signing into that somehow from wherever I am?

     

    c) or is it possible to use the macbook pro or air that I travel with as the server and sync wherever I am?

     

    Would be good if anyone can actually answer these 3 questions with facts and not speculation. Appreciate your input.

  • 1,711. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    pedro ramon Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)

    applejpmc wrote:

     

    Drew, this follows what I was told.

     

    What I actually want to do is find a way to sync - simply contacts and calandar - but my situation is that I am in a different place and often a different country on different wifi networks every week. I do in the region of 100 flights a year to give an idea of my schedule. I'd really like to know 3 things...

     

    a) is there any way to cable link an iphone and a macbook pro or air to sync? - ie locally sync (if this is the right terminology)

     

    next if this is possible -

     

    b) does it need to be leaving another macbook at home and signing into that somehow from wherever I am?

     

    c) or is it possible to use the macbook pro or air that I travel with as the server and sync wherever I am?

     

    Would be good if anyone can actually answer these 3 questions with facts and not speculation. Appreciate your input.

     

    a) If you mean "USB" cable : No since the removing of the locally sync by Apple in Itunes / Mavericks.

     

    If you mean "Ethernet cable" or "WiFi": if you are on travel and it means that you do not have a permanent router/DHCP server at home with a local Network (through Wifi and Ethernet) so the answer is first No (see c). If you are often at home the answer is yes through OS X server and the router of your internet provider.

     

    b) If you want to connect your device to the MacBook (Server) at home without being at home. In this case you are not "in" the home local network and we do not speak of "sync local" but remotely. The only way you can connect is through the internet. To do this your Macbook should have a DNS to be reachable remotely through internet. But I would not recommend to do this except if you have the security IT skills to do it. And you would need a "real dedicated server" running 24/24. In this case using iCloud should be the best solution (except if you do not want to use it).

     

    c) The answer is Yes "locally" if you have a router, "remotely" see b).

     

    It could only be possible locally only if you bring with you a small router (there are cheap small portable Wifi routers you can hold in your hand). You connect the router to the internet provider of your hotel and all devices are connected to the internet through the router through a local wifi network. You can then sync local while on travel with OS X server on your MacBook.

     

    Alternatively you can try transform you MacBook in a Wifi router (you connect the macbook to internet through the Ethernet port and create a Wifi network with the sharing pane of the pref pane). But in this case you would have the problem of the IP adresses which are changing for the Macbook/server each time you connect to internet. I would not recommend this solution because you would have to change the set up for each new connection and it is not fully secure.

  • 1,712. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    feinmeister Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Drew Reece: RE your response

    Dec 19, 2013 9:33 PM (in response to Barney-15E) on page 114 of this thread

     

    You are truly a voice of reason, thank you! That is exactly the point that Executive Customer Service was making.  The average / non-business consumer without superior tech skills wants a simple solution to the removal of manual sync option from Mavericks and that's not an unreasonable desire (the validity of which has been discussed ad nauseum in this discussion).

     

    Again, to help ensure a Mavericks update that addresses the manual sync issue for us poor folks with limited expertise and, who for various reasons refuse to use iCloud for some or all cloud syncing services, please give Apple feedback where it wants to receive it (not this forum, we're a closed loop) so that Apple can readily tally the complaint trends and implement change.   I've been told repeatedly that there is nothing more the Apple Executive Customer Service Team can do UNTIL Apple sees volume of complaints on this issue and that the engineers are not working to reinstate the manual sync option at this time.

     

    IF you want a shot at change, IF you are unsatisfied witht the status quo, IF you want to encourage Apple to respond to the needs of its users, then be pro-active and encourage fellow sufferers to do the same. Not everybody uses this forum and knows how to provide feedback to Apple. Be a good neighbor ;-)

     

    1. Go to www.Apple.com/feedback and provide feedback for Mavericks AND iPhone (that would be feedback twice). Select the subject, Design & Ease of Use. Be sure to request that the manual sync option be reinstated for use with Mavericks.

     

    2. If you live in a region with access to Apple's toll-free Customer Service number (regional phone numbers available on their website), call.   Apple will create a case number and submit a complaint on "manual sync with Mavericks" (they must see consistent language, it's a database thing). You can followup using your case number and ask for a supervisor until you reach Executive Customer Service. The service team will make phone appointments with you to give you status updates.

  • 1,713. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    James Richards Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    a) No. There is no way to sync calendars and contacts via cable connected to USB

     

    b) You do not need to leave another macbook at home available to be signed into from wherever you are. For security reasons, unless you really know what you are doing, I would recommend you do NOT choose this option. (If you can log into it from anywhere in the world so, potentially, can anyone else who can bypass your security.) If all you are trying to reproduce is the ability to sync directly between your laptop and your phone, then (c) is your best option.

     

    c) Yes. The server can reside on your macbook pro or air. It will serve calendar and contact data to your laptop Calendar and Contact apps internally within the computer whenever it is switched on. If your phone is also setup to use the server, it will sync with it whenever it can find it. It may do this if phone and laptop are both on the same wifi network and can find each other. Alternatively if you wish to sync direct between your computer and your phone you can create your own ad hoc network following these instructions. Connect your iPhone to the network you have just created, and bingo you can sync. No other equipment is needed than your iPhone and your MacBook Pro or Air. (I've just tested it.)

     

    Essentially the server is simply a program, a piece of software. It can run on any computer that can handle the data. It doesn't have to be installed on dedicated server hardware. It will then serve data to any computer that can link to it. It can serve data purely within within your own computer, or across a network either via an infrastructure network, or an ad hoc network you set up yourself. The server is only running while your laptop is running, so obviously your iPhone can't sync when your laptop is off, but then if you are simply seeking to reproduce the cable sync then that isn't a problem!

  • 1,714. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Barney-15E Level 8 Level 8 (35,275 points)

    The trouble comes when a Mac server starts roving onto other networks, for example some wifi providers will heavily restrict what can be done on their network, they may attempt to dynamically assign hostnames to connected devices (suddenly your server has a new name, or two names).

     

    They may decide to isolate or block Bonjour traffic, so now your iOS device cannot lookup the .local address of the server. They may also block connections to other devices on the same network (no more accessing port 8443 for syncing).

    That makes no sense. Why would you allow you "server" to be touched by your ISP's network? The only device that your ISP should see is your router. The server should be isolated behind your router, merely getting an IP address from that router. Almost all ISPs will block you from hosting a server on their network (unless you have a business account), which is why you don't allow your server outside your local network.

     

    Yes, none of this is simple. However, if the cloud is not suitable to your needs, you must learn how to make something else work. Apple has already provided a simple solution that works so much better than it did before.

  • 1,715. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Matt Schultz Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    If you use a Windows laptop instead of a MacBook Pro or Air, you can still connect via USB cable to iTunes and sync your iOS devices with your Calendar and Contacts in Outlook. This is the route our company will be going.

  • 1,716. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Barney-15E Level 8 Level 8 (35,275 points)

    applejpmc wrote:

     

    Drew, this follows what I was told.

     

    What I actually want to do is find a way to sync - simply contacts and calandar - but my situation is that I am in a different place and often a different country on different wifi networks every week.

    Why would that make any difference for any of the workarounds suggested.

    You obviously have a Mac with you on all of those adventures or you wouldn't be here since you couldn't sync via USB either without the Mac.

     

    You run whatever server you want on your Mac, and sync to that server. The Baikal server works over an Ad Hoc network (WiFi menu, Create Network…), as James Richards has noted, but I'm not sure if the OS X Server would provide the same. I would imagine so.

     

    Using it on someone else's WiFi is certainly highly prone to conflict, which is why we would recommend an ad hoc network. However, if you are on a WiFi network, and your Mac still has the local sharing name, and the WiFi network doesn't block traffic on those ports, you should be able to sync. However, I wouldn't try that on a public network. I would disable the server (which could likely be automated) until I needed to sync. Then, set up an ad hoc network and enable the server. Sync, disable the server, then drop the ad hoc network.

  • 1,717. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    Excellent solution! Unless of course Windows drops.........no, shudder the thought!!!

     

    Good luck

     

    Pete

  • 1,718. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    James Richards Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    That is a risk, and Microsoft are not necessarily any better at flagging up that they might pull this facility. OTOH it does give a user, for whom this is an option, a bit of breathing space. A third party solution might be produced, or a workaround might be made easier to implement, or Apple may revise their policy in the light of feedback (see the many links for that upthread). These are in reverse order of probability IMHO.

     

    James

  • 1,719. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    True, but I would not be selling up all my computers to change platforms and then change back when a third party produces a fix for people. I would have thought a Company would be capable of setting up a local server.

     

    Pete

  • 1,720. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    ChrisW£ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Barney, do you know if the following is possible and how I would achieve it? (I'm thinking well outside the limit of my knowledge here so it's probably not possible).

     

    As I mentioned in an earlier post on this discussion board I have installed OS X server on my Macbook Pro and am syncing calendars and contacts via wifi to my iPhone with no problem while I am in range of a wifi network.

     

    I also have windows 7 running as a VM under Parallels. In Windows 7 I have MS Office including Outlook installed.

     

    Outlook allows connection to Internet calendars and show an example address of  webcal://www.example.com/calendars/calendar.ics.

     

    Assuming an OS X server name of CALSERV, what would the full address be to connect from Outlook (maybe using IP adresses rather than a domain name)?

     

    If this will connect is it available to iTunes under windows, thereby giving back the ability to sync via USB cable?

     

    Unfortunately, I don't think Contacts can be done this way because Outlook only mentions connecting to LDAP and Mobile address books.

     

    Chris.

  • 1,721. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (37,765 points)

    Matt Schultz wrote:

     

    This is the route our company will be going.

    What, you're not capable of installing an Exchange server, or corporate CalDAV and CardDAV servers? Seems like it would make a lot more sense than replacing all your MACs with PCs... Or maybe you should have actually thought about testing a brand new .0 OS version before trying to deploy it.

  • 1,722. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Drew Reece Level 4 Level 4 (2,200 points)

    Try replacing the 'www.example.com' with 'calserv.local' or look at what the 'computer name' is set to in the sharing section of system prefs. It will say the .local address in small text below it.

     

    Avoid using IP addresses they usually change on every network so your system quickly falls apart.

     

    Windows may require bonjour to be installed to use '.local' domains, try without it first.

    http://support.apple.com/kb/DL999

     

    None of this will allow you to sync over USB unless you move all your iTunes data into the Windows VM & sync from there, you'll also need to authorize the device in the store with the Windows VM.

     

    You also don't need to carry a router around with you, just setup a wifi network on the Mac instead & connect the iOS device to that to sync.

     

    Isn't this all incredibly contrived & fragile? Can't you revert to something before 10.9 & wait for a realistic solution?

  • 1,723. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    ChrisW£ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Drew, I thought it was a stretch.

     

    I was new to Apple in February having always used Windows before that (though with some exposure to Unix, Linux and Novell). When I checked out things at the local Apple store like "can I sync my calendar and contacts" I was told "no problem, use the cloud". When I said I didn't want to use the cloud I was told "no problem, do it through iTunes". So much for deprecation being 2 years ago.

     

    I have a system that works for me, I was just trying to improve it, so I'll stay as I am until a better solution comes along.

     

    Chris.

  • 1,724. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,350 points)

    Deprecation was 2 years ago, and not all 'geniuses' deserve the appellation.